mashani wrote:Well the US-05 version of this stout is quite nice, just like a Dry Irish stout but with a small twist of lemon. It does not have the diacetyl issue like the previous US-05 beer did. No hint of it at all. So I have no clue what happened with that other beer. This one did condition warmer, so maybe that is it? Will try T-58 version tomorrow.
T-58 version is not radically different then the S-05 version. You can just barely taste a hint of bit of black pepper against the small twist of lemon which is a good combination. A very small bit of extra juicy fruitiness besides the lemon. Otherwise the same perceptually.
Both beers are good as they are I'm not sure if I would pick one or the other as better.
I opened the first bomber of my saison last night. Delicious! Fruity with a touch of black pepper.
I kept the carboy upstairs in the closet of the Man Cave™ to keep the temperature higher. It usually gets in the low 80s, what with the heat generated by the yeast, so it's a good place to ferment a saison. And I bottle it rather than keg it, to keep the carbonation high, as befits the style.
So refreshing. My summer drinking is going to be very good, as I've got a keg of Kölsch, a keglet of Napping Chipmunk Blonde Ale, and a keg of White Panama Blonde Ale to supplement the saison.
The O.A.F. Wheat Beer (4oz of Bergamot hops in 6 gallons).
The US05 version is like orange marmalade on unsweetened biscuits with some tart cherries and juniper berries crushed up and sprinkled on top. The aroma is very much orange juice.
The T58 version has all those things, but has a bit more of a dank/musky tropical vibe, like some mango or cantaloupe was in the mix, and has some spicyness behind it all.
Both are delicious, this is a good SMaSH type hop. But I bet it would play well with some Mosiac or Citra hops.
I'm not sure if it would work well in a NEIPA if your definition of NEIPA is just fruit juice though. The juniper is strong enough that you know it is there. But I like that. It is why I like Simcoe and Apollo and such hops, I like dank or dope or piney and fruity more then just fruity.
This was JUST a @flameout/overnight slow chill in the mash & boil result, no dry hop. The 4oz slow chill @flameout gave me enough bitterness that this doesn't have any residual sweetness that is detectible, it is very dry, the bitterness is at high end APA levels (think like SNPA).
Maybe in a dry hop it's more orange and less of the rest, I dunno.
This is just over 2 weeks in the bottle, so it will be interesting to see at 4 weeks if it has changed much. If it last 4 weeks LOL.
That Patersbier I made. It has a good bit of tropical fruit and pineapple. I don't recall Abbaye throwing off pineapple, so I am thinking my summer brett got into it.