The no beer brewday

Vent, Rant, Chat or just talk about whatever is on your mind! Keep it civil though!

Moderators: BlackDuck, Beer-lord, LouieMacGoo, philm00x, gwcr

Post Reply
User avatar
Ibasterd
Brew Master
Brew Master
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: In the shadow of the Mouse.

The no beer brewday

Post by Ibasterd »

Ran through an entire brew procedure but ended up with no beer this morning... wait, what?

In preparation to do my first all grain batch, I did a "batch" to break in some new equipment and do some water volume calculations. I have a new aluminum 5 gal kettle that I needed to get a layer of oxidation on and figure boil off. So I ran through the whole process. 1 hour mash and a 1 hour boil. I was ordering some goodies online while the boil was going on (didn't have to worry about boil over). I have a new 10" wide-mouth funnel with a built in strainer for pouring into the LBK, a hydrometer, beer thief, clip on thermometer, grain bag, hop sacs and some hops on the way.

I think I have my numbers ready for brewday. Excited to go all grain baby!
What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by philm00x »

Welcome to the dark side!! muahahahaha ;)
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

User avatar
Ibasterd
Brew Master
Brew Master
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: In the shadow of the Mouse.

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by Ibasterd »

Thanks for the help Phil. However, if it goes bad I blame you.
What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
User avatar
John Sand
Brew Guru
Brew Guru
Posts: 4310
Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Long Island NY

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by John Sand »

That's great! But don't forget grain absorption.
Making beer and stew for the Zombie Apocalypse.
Never mind, there it is.
User avatar
Ibasterd
Brew Master
Brew Master
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: In the shadow of the Mouse.

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by Ibasterd »

I'm figuring on about a cup per lb of grain. I don't expect my first batch to be perfect. I'm sure I will learn from the things that will inevitably go wrong. Plus it is easier to add water at the end if i'm short rather than the other way around.
What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by philm00x »

Ibasterd wrote:Thanks for the help Phil. However, if it goes bad I blame you.
Fair enough, but just remember, you've steeped grains before. This isn't any harder than steeping grains. The only differences are temperature, and time.
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

User avatar
FrozenInTime
FrozenInTime
FrozenInTime
Posts: 2807
Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:19 pm
Location: Frozen Tundra

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by FrozenInTime »

You know the saying.. once u go all grain, you'll never go dme again... are you ready for that??
Life is short, live it to it's fullest!
User avatar
wollffy
Brew Fool
Brew Fool
Posts: 237
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:05 pm

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by wollffy »

Ibasterd wrote:I'm figuring on about a cup per lb of grain. I don't expect my first batch to be perfect. I'm sure I will learn from the things that will inevitably go wrong. Plus it is easier to add water at the end if i'm short rather than the other way around.

I would still be very happy to help you drink it.. :fedora: :cool: :clink:
User avatar
Chuck N
Braumeister
Braumeister
Posts: 989
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:41 am
Location: The Land of 10,000 Casseroles. Uf-Da! ©

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by Chuck N »

Ibasterd wrote:I'm figuring on about a cup per lb of grain. I don't expect my first batch to be perfect. I'm sure I will learn from the things that will inevitably go wrong. Plus it is easier to add water at the end if i'm short rather than the other way around.
I do BIAB and full volume mashes. I multiply the grain weight by .075 and that gives me the amount of water I need to add to the mash to compensate for grain absorption.
Things men have made with wakened hands, and put soft life into
Are awake through years with transferred touch and go on glowing
For long years.
And for this reason some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them.

― D.H. Lawrence
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by philm00x »

A cup per pound is a really thick mash that may not allow for good conversion. I suggest to use a minimum of one quart of water per pound of grain. Typical traditional mashes use 1.25 to 2 quarts of water per pound (I like to be in the middle at 1.5 quarts per pound). I typically will end up topping off the fermenter with an extra quart after the boil even with this ratio. The water absorbed by the grain is significant and with a cup per pound, you'll likely not have much wort in your pot.
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

mtsoxfan
Uber Brewer
Uber Brewer
Posts: 1055
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:18 am
Location: Vermont

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by mtsoxfan »

I think he was saying 1 cup per lb for absorbtion. Otherwise, it'd be like oatmeal...
User avatar
Ibasterd
Brew Master
Brew Master
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: In the shadow of the Mouse.

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by Ibasterd »

mtsoxfan wrote:I think he was saying 1 cup per lb for absorbtion. Otherwise, it'd be like oatmeal...
Correct. I was planning on adding an extra cup per lb of grain in addition to the initial full volume of strike water. In my test boil, I lost almost exactly 1 gal to boil off. So, to compensate I would need to start with 3 gallons to end up with two. In addition to that I plan on adding an extra 1.25qts for grain absorbtion for 5 lbs of grain. for a grand total of 3 gal, 1.25 qts initial strike water. Like I said, the batch itself will be a learning experience. I will have a more accurate idea after I go through the process.
What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
User avatar
Ibasterd
Brew Master
Brew Master
Posts: 699
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: In the shadow of the Mouse.

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by Ibasterd »

Here is the current recipe I worked up on Brewer's Friend.

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Grand MOFF SMaSH
Author: Inglourious Basterd Brewing Co.

Brew Method: BIAB
Style Name: American IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 2 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3.3125 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.034
Efficiency: 60% (brew house)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.057
Final Gravity: 1.016
ABV (standard): 5.39%
IBU (tinseth): 63.69
SRM (morey): 6.93

FERMENTABLES:
5 lb - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (100%)

HOPS:
0.25 oz - Falconer's Flight, Type: Pellet, AA: 10, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 27.33
0.25 oz - Falconer's Flight, Type: Pellet, AA: 10, Use: Boil for 20 min, IBU: 16.55
0.5 oz - Falconer's Flight, Type: Pellet, AA: 10, Use: Boil for 10 min, IBU: 19.82
0.25 oz - Falconer's Flight, Type: Pellet, AA: 0, Use: Aroma for 0 min

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Temperature, Temp: 152 F, Time: 60 min, Amount: 3.3125 gal

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05
Starter: No
Form: Dry
Attenuation (avg): 72%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Temp: 59 - 75 F
Fermentation Temp: 68 F
Attachments
Grand-MOFF-IPA.gif
Grand-MOFF-IPA.gif (67.48 KiB) Viewed 591 times
What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The no beer brewday

Post by philm00x »

That looks pretty solid! Your boil size will be closer to 2.75 gallons considering loss to grain absorption, but that's not important. Like we discussed, if you haven't got one, I'd recommend picking up a hydrometer so you can take a specific gravity reading before pitching the yeast to see if your OG is where it is expected to be. Best of luck on your brew day, Andrew!
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

Post Reply