Horse blanket??!!

Vent, Rant, Chat or just talk about whatever is on your mind! Keep it civil though!

Moderators: BlackDuck, Beer-lord, LouieMacGoo, philm00x, gwcr

User avatar
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
Posts: 4208
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
Location: North and west of the city
Contact:

Horse blanket??!!

Post by FedoraDave »

My daughter is visiting this weekend, as it's her birthday, last Sunday was her cousin's birthday, and my parents are throwing a party for everyone in the family (or even on earth) who is having a birthday in April or on May 1, since that's my dad's birthday.

As I've mentioned, she's working on the second edition of The Beer Book. She brought her work with her, and, to her credit, she's nearly done.

Right now, she's in Belgium, and she's coming across many descriptions of beers that include the description "horse blanket." This distresses her, and I have to wonder if anyone has come across this and knows what the hey-hoo it means.

Horse blanket beer? This is a good thing?

Also, leather grease. Apparently, Belgium is brewing in stables.
Obey The Hat!

http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com

Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Up Next:
FedoraDave's American Ale
Fermenting/Conditioning
Natural 20 Pale Ale -- Bull Terrier Best Bitter -- King Duncan's Porter -- Schöenwald Schwarzbier -- Littlejohn's Ale
Drinking:
Crown Top Pale Ale
User avatar
russki
Russki
Russki
Posts: 438
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:57 am
Location: Chicagoland

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by russki »

Oh yes, it's a good thing. Especially in a sour or farmhouse ale.

Edit: and if this distresses her, it's time for a research trip to her local bottle shop... Or mashani's house...
In Soviet Russia, beer brews you!
My brews
Fermenting:
Strawberry Rhubarb Wheat (5-gal)(AG)
Cranberry Mead
Buck-Flower Mead
Flanders Red (5-gal)(AG) x 2
On Tap:
Hefeweizen (5-gal)(AG)
Oaked Pear Cider
User avatar
Brewbirds
Brew Guru
Brew Guru
Posts: 2814
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:32 am
Location: A Tree Somewhere

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by Brewbirds »

russki wrote:Oh yes, it's a good thing. Especially in a sour or farmhouse ale.

Edit: and if this distresses her, it's time for a research trip to her local bottle shop... Or mashani's house...
That Russki NOSE everything. :whistle:
Sibling Brewers
User avatar
BigPapaG
Uber Brewer
Uber Brewer
Posts: 1979
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:11 am

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by BigPapaG »

You will find that beers that have been fermented with Brettanomyces will often exhibit the horse blanket profile.

:cool:
User avatar
Beer-lord
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 9635
Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:48 pm
Location: Burbs of the Big Easy

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by Beer-lord »

Didnt Miichael Jackson have a kid named blanket? Maybe they named a beer style after him.
PABs Brewing
Planning
Brew good beer and live a hoppy life
Fermenting

Drinking
Disfucted
Smelly Hops
(split batch) A Many Stringed Bow
Up Next
Men In Black
User avatar
Kealia
Brew Guru
Brew Guru
Posts: 5588
Joined: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:52 pm

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by Kealia »

Yep, I've heard it too and I've smelled it. Saisons exhibit that profile sometimes. It's likely the weirdest description for a beer I've ever heard but once you come across it, it's spot on.
User avatar
swenocha
Uber Brewer
Uber Brewer
Posts: 1992
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:35 am

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by swenocha »

I never liked the 'horse blanket' description, but i like the beers that have that description, so IMHO it's a good thing... ;)
Swenocha is a vast bastard of brewing knowledge - Wings_Fan_In_KC

Fermenting:
nada... zip...

Drinking:
nada... zip... maybe an N/A beer here and there...
User avatar
mashani
mashani
mashani
Posts: 6749
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 pm

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by mashani »

Look for a bottle of Orval Trappist ale. You can't miss it, the bottle looks like a bowling pin.

Taste it and you will understand what it is and why it is described in that manner.
User avatar
Foothiller
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 381
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:37 am
Location: Northern CA (Sierra foothills) / Interests: BJCP Certified

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by Foothiller »

"Horse blanket" is part of the BJCP description for Lambic and Geuze.
User avatar
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
Posts: 4208
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
Location: North and west of the city
Contact:

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by FedoraDave »

Given the fact that it was Belgium, I figured it was a by-product of high-temp fermentation, and I figured it was a good thing, since, y'know, Belgium and all.

I'll look for Orval Trappist, just to see what it's like, and to understand it. But I have to agree with Swen; as a descriptor, it's kind of off-putting, no matter how good an addition it is.

The girl was also a bit skeptical about banana notes, but I explained the esters thing, and how banana notes are often highly sought-after. Depends on the beer, of course.
Obey The Hat!

http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com

Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Up Next:
FedoraDave's American Ale
Fermenting/Conditioning
Natural 20 Pale Ale -- Bull Terrier Best Bitter -- King Duncan's Porter -- Schöenwald Schwarzbier -- Littlejohn's Ale
Drinking:
Crown Top Pale Ale
User avatar
T8rSalad
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 425
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:10 pm
Location: Arid-Zona
Contact:

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by T8rSalad »

Veddy intewesting, indeedee.

some of us might have to venture into thee unknown.
L8r T8r

Fermenting: Quiet Kreek Kolsch Deaux, First Pitch Pilsner Ale Trois

Conditioning: Nut Brown Vienna Lager Ale, PilotHouse Pilsner, Johnny Silk's ESB 4th gen, Blue Moon Clone Trois, Fallen Friar Deaux, Arizona Country Canadian Draft Deaux

Drinking & Sharing: Rose's Rambling Red, Blue Moon Deaux, Ruck & Maul Red, American Devil Indian Pale Ale, Quiet Creek Kolsch, Northwest Pale Ale, Golden Czech Pils, Beach Babe Blonde, Grand Bohemian Czech Pils Trois, Diablo IPA+, Columbus Cascading Amber Ale, High Country Gold Lager Ale,
User avatar
mashani
mashani
mashani
Posts: 6749
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 pm

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by mashani »

FedoraDave wrote: I'll look for Orval Trappist, just to see what it's like, and to understand it. But I have to agree with Swen; as a descriptor, it's kind of off-putting, no matter how good an addition it is.
Honestly, you may very well find it off-putting. Or you may think it's awesome. Or you may find it interesting but think you'd not want it around all the time. I prefer Brett C beer, which has a lighter "hay and pineapple" funkiness to it, vs. the stronger flavor/aroma folks call horse blanket you get from other Brett strains.

Also of interest is the age of those beers matters a lot. An older bottle of Orval will have more intense brett flavors then a really fresh bottle. I'm not sure if you can get a really fresh bottle in the states though. Just mentioning this because if you find it overpowering but still "interesting", you might like a younger/fresher brett beer, or you might like a Brett C beer.
User avatar
jivex5k
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 470
Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:27 pm

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by jivex5k »

Mashani is spot on, certain brett strains exhibit it. According to this chart it's Brux that does it.
http://www.funkfactorygeuzeria.com/2013 ... guide.html

It's an acquired profile, as most sours tend to be. Much like getting past the bitterness of an IPA to appreciate the underlying symphony of flavors. Sour beers are an awesome journey to begin, be warned though, they tend to be more expensive than any other styles and you can get hooked on em. I don't even hesitate to spend 20 bucks on a single 750ml of sour beer these days. Hell, I just spent 30 bucks on a Cascade Apricot.

The expense comes from the extended barrel aging required for these beers I'd imagine.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is you can never be sure if they are true." - Walt Whitman
User avatar
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
Posts: 4208
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
Location: North and west of the city
Contact:

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by FedoraDave »

I knew the Borg would provide excellent information on horse blanket.

This actually does nothing in terms of my daughter's assignment. She's just Americanizing the text (it's a British publication) and cleaning things up grammatically. But when she read "horse blanket" it made visible cartoon question marks shoot out of her head.

As I think I mentioned, I figured it was the yeast/temperature situation which results in this flavor/aroma. Of course, reading about it is light years away from actually experiencing it, and I doubt she'll spend the money just to see what it's like; it's not integral to this particular editing assignment, and she's got a wedding to pay for. And while her fiance might dig a really nice Belgian, she may not (she's not a dedicated beer drinker; only occasionally).

But it was a fun episode while she was here visiting this weekend. :)
Obey The Hat!

http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com

Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Up Next:
FedoraDave's American Ale
Fermenting/Conditioning
Natural 20 Pale Ale -- Bull Terrier Best Bitter -- King Duncan's Porter -- Schöenwald Schwarzbier -- Littlejohn's Ale
Drinking:
Crown Top Pale Ale
User avatar
swenocha
Uber Brewer
Uber Brewer
Posts: 1992
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:35 am

Re: Horse blanket??!!

Post by swenocha »

Exactly what jivex5k says... Definitely an acquired taste, and one I'm so glad I've acquired, and that I've also started brewing (though I've probably wrecked my house for "standard" brewing/fermenting now... lol).

I know for the local brewery, they've bought many barrels (and had to abandon some due to bad infections), new fermenters, a new bottling line, and are now moving it to a new facility to protect the non-funky beers (and to give them some room to grow). I know I'm more than willing to drop $25 on a bomber knowing what went into it. And, as an aside, I don't mind paying $25 for a bottle when I have their sour brewer on my cell, especially when he provides excellent resource for my sour brewing, going so far as to loan me corking equipment and the like... (and he shares my passion for hot chicken) ;)
Swenocha is a vast bastard of brewing knowledge - Wings_Fan_In_KC

Fermenting:
nada... zip...

Drinking:
nada... zip... maybe an N/A beer here and there...
Post Reply