India Pale Lager

[BlackDuck]

So who here has done an India Pale Lager that they were pleased with??? I'm am starting to do some research on this new and upcoming style. I thought I would hit up the for some tips and ideas that have worked and that I might consider when writing my recipe.

Can't wait to hear your ideas.

[Kealia]

Chris,

The Hop Miser I sent you earlier this year was an IPL. I was pleased with it and I somewhat based the recipe on the IPA I did earlier. Happy to post that recipe if you want to use that as a data point with everything else you are collecting.

[Beer-lord]

I did a RyePL (think I sent you one) that I liked but it wasn't a true lager. I used 1007 yeast which I think I would use again. I know I would change things but I don't know what. I enjoyed it. It was discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2056

I have some recipes I've been working on for months that I've never decided I like or not. I have read so much on them I'm almost tired of it. Endless recipes online. I was actually thinking of doing a real lager (since I can now) and use 2 row instead of Pilsner to see what that does as I like a more malty brew but the more I think about it, the sillier it sounds.
The thing I liked about the one I brewed was that it still had all the lager characteristics but I didn't have to worry about D-rests or long lagering. It was pretty drinkable at 4 weeks. Looking back, I'd add more late addition/dry hops but that's not a surprise to anyone.

[BlackDuck]

Chris,

The Hop Miser I sent you earlier this year was an IPL. I was pleased with it and I somewhat based the recipe on the IPA I did earlier. Happy to post that recipe if you want to use that as a data point with everything else you are collecting.

Yes, please do. That was nice enjoyable beer. And a great label too!!

I did a RyePL (think I sent you one) that I liked but it wasn't a true lager. I used 1007 yeast which I think I would use again. I know I would change things but I don't know what. I enjoyed it. It was discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2056

I do remember that. And I thought that was a good beer. But mine will be a true lager with lager yeast.

I found this doing some research.... https://byo.com/stories/issue/item/2875 ... roundtable Looks like there is some good information in there.

[BigPapaG]

Chris,

I just shared this one that I have been playing with...

It's an Extact with Steep, which is how I test new recipes...

It's really good and got an honorable mention in a regional this year in Category 23.

Enjoy!

Spring Thaw IPL

[Kealia]

I remember that article - good information and direction in there.

Here's the recipe. I used extract because I wanted to test the MoreBeer Pilsner LME and I didn't want to invest a lot of time in case the beer was crap


Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 4.12 gal
Post Boil Volume: 3.12 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 3.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 5.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 117.6 IBUs
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5.00 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -
3.00 g Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -
0.60 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 3 56.2 IBUs
2 lbs Pilsner Liquid Extract (3.5 SRM) Extract 4 40.0 %
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 5 -
3 lbs Pilsner Liquid Extract [Boil for 10 min] Extract 6 60.0 %
1.00 Items Servomyces (Boil 10.0 mins) Other 7 -
0.90 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 8 19.7 IBUs
0.70 oz Simcoe [11.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 9 20.5 IBUs
0.70 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Day Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

Oddly enough, I don't have the yeast listed. I'm going to have to figure out what I used.
Damn.

[BlackDuck]

Awesome guys...thanks. When you dry hopped, did you do it at lager temp (50 to 55) or room temp?

[Beer-lord]

Look at you guys! Here I am a hophead and made mine under 60 IBU's and you guys are blowing the IBU's out the water. Steppin up!

[Beer-lord]

Chris,

I found this doing some research.... https://byo.com/stories/issue/item/2875 ... roundtable Looks like there is some good information in there.

That's an interesting article. It seems most don't even use Pilsner malt but instead use 2 row. Though I could brew mine again and not change anything, if I were to do another one, I'd like to split the grain bill 50/50 2 row/pilsner. Then try it with all 2 row with the same yeast and see how it goes.
I've not tried any of the beers mentioned but have tried Founders IPL which is pretty good. Not awesome but good. I think it's a DIPL though.

[BlackDuck]

I noticed that too. I'll use 2-row as the primary, in fact, I don't think I'll use any pilsner. Still doing the research, we'll see what comes out of my head after I'm done.

[BigPapaG]

Look at you guys! Here I am a hophead and made mine under 60 IBU's and you guys are blowing the IBU's out the water. Steppin up!

Guilty as charged!

[BigPapaG]

I noticed that too. I'll use 2-row as the primary, in fact, I don't think I'll use any pilsner. Still doing the research, we'll see what comes out of my head after I'm done.

The 'Extra Light Dry Extract' in mine is Briess CBW Pilsen DME.

I didn't take the time to 'build' one using the correct descriptive name.

I like using Pilsen as it has a grainy sweetness that plays really well in a lager.

The addition of the Munich reinforces the overall maltiness nicely.

[BigPapaG]

Awesome guys...thanks. When you dry hopped, did you do it at lager temp (50 to 55) or room temp?

I dry hopped at room temp prior to lagering...

In fact, wait... I barely lagered it... It was just really good so I drank it!

[Kealia]

I can tell you that mine didn't taste like 100+ IBUs at all. I recall it actually coming out similar to a session IPA in that the body was lighter than a standard IPA and it had a good nose and flavor.

I dry hopped at room temp (68) just after the D-rest. So, after bringing it up to room temp for the D-rest for 3 days, I then dry hopped and cold crashed.
What really impressed me was how the aroma and taste didn't fade over a couple of months. I had a bottle or two long after I sent you guys a couple and I think they actually got better. I thought the Pilsner actually let the hops shine through more, but that's a trade-off for the body/mouthfeel.

[Beer-lord]

Oh stop it guys! You are making me rethink my next 2 brews and do another IPL.
Worse, I feel like I should have a beer for lunch!