The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Vent, Rant, Chat or just talk about whatever is on your mind! Keep it civil though!

Moderators: BlackDuck, Beer-lord, LouieMacGoo, philm00x, gwcr

Post Reply
User avatar
braukasper
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 465
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:08 am

The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by braukasper »

I had posted about using The Nocturnal Grain Blend in my Daughter's B-day beer. I asked Northern Brewer how to enter it in BeerSmith. Thought I would share see below

"The Nocturnal blend has different grains in it.

You can approximate it with these proportions
50% Chocolate
25% Dark Crystal
12.5% Carafa III
12.5% Extra Dark Crystal

Depending on how much you need, you should be able to configure each malt individually in Beer Smith to approximate the blend using those proportions.
"

so for a pound 8 oz Chocolate + 4 oz Dark Crystal + 2 oz Carafa III + 2 oz Extra Dark Crystal = 16 oz Nocturnal Grain Blend
Lebe das Leben. Um in vollen Zügen. Trinken zu Hause brauen!
Live life. To the fullest. Drink home brew!!
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by philm00x »

That sounds pretty spot on. What kind of beer are you making for your daughter's b-day? First guess would be a stout, but maybe a black IPA?
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

User avatar
braukasper
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 465
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:08 am

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by braukasper »

a chocolate stout.
Lebe das Leben. Um in vollen Zügen. Trinken zu Hause brauen!
Live life. To the fullest. Drink home brew!!
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by philm00x »

Mmmmm yummy
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

User avatar
braukasper
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 465
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:08 am

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by braukasper »

Came up with this for entering the blend into Beersmith. Now you just need to add a single grain instead of 4.

chocolate 350 srm 50% = 175
Dark Crystal 80 srm 25% = 20
Extra Dark Crystal 158 srm 12.5% = 19.75
Carafa III 525 srm 12.5% = 65.625

(175 + 20 + 19.75 + 16.625) = 280.375
Lebe das Leben. Um in vollen Zügen. Trinken zu Hause brauen!
Live life. To the fullest. Drink home brew!!
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by jimjohson »

braukasper wrote:Came up with this for entering the blend into Beersmith. Now you just need to add a single grain instead of 4.

chocolate 350 srm 50% = 175
Dark Crystal 80 srm 25% = 20
Extra Dark Crystal 158 srm 12.5% = 19.75
Carafa III 525 srm 12.5% = 65.625

(175 + 20 + 19.75 + 16.625) = 280.375
Uh, I think it should be 65.625 not 16.625. as written the answer to the line problem is 231.375. Now color me stupid but what the devil are the numbers your adding up?
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
Dawg LB Steve
Brew Guru
Brew Guru
Posts: 2778
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:39 pm
Location: Greater Cleveland East

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by Dawg LB Steve »

Looks like he's putting the color to percentages, but 350L is 350L no mater what percentage is used.
:clink:
MONTUCKY BREWING
Currently brewing:

Next Up?
Kolsch?
Ginger Beer?
Traveling Red?
Yazoo Gerst Clone?
Peanut Butter Porter?

Currently Conditioning:
Cherry Mead
California Moscato

Currently enjoying:
Hardly Apple Cider on tap
Hardly Cherry Lime-Aid on tap
Oktoberfestive-Ale on tap
PGA Cider (Pear, Ginger, Apple) on tap 3rd Founders Cup 2016 King Of The Mountain on tap
Bottoms Up Brown on tap GOLD 2016 Ohio Brew Week Silver 2016 Ohio State Fair Silver 2016 Son of Brewzilla, Silver 2015 Son of Brewzilla, Bronze 2015 King Of The Mountain on tap
NITWIT BELGIAN STRONG ALE Banjo-Dawg RCE bottled
DAWG LB PALE ALE bottled
CITRA SLAPPED AMBER ALE bottle
MO FREEDOM SMaSH bottle
HOP TO IT IMPERIAL IPA bottle

Medal Count
Gold 3
Silver 5
Bronze 5
Actively brewing since December 2013
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by jimjohson »

Dawg LB Steve wrote:Looks like he's putting the color to percentages, but 350L is 350L no mater what percentage is used.
:clink:

he's adding up the grain blend, but I don't get where the numbers (i.e. 350 SRM 50% = 175). what's the 175, grams?
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
RickBeer
Brew Guru
Brew Guru
Posts: 3099
Joined: Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:21 pm
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan (Go Blue!)

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by RickBeer »

He's trying to calculate the SRM of the nocturnal blend grain by taking a weighted average of the components. Chocolate is 350, but only comprises 50% of the blend, so it gets 175. Add them all up and you get 280.375, which apparently you can then input into the software as one grain with that SRM instead of putting in the four different grains with different amounts.
I have over 9,000 posts on "another forum", which means absolutely nothing. Mr. Beer January 2014 Brewer of the Month with all the pomp and circumstance that comes with it...

Certificate in Brewing and Distillation Technology

Sites to find beer making supplies: Adventures in Homebrewing - Mr. Beer - MoreBeer
My Beer - click to reveal
Currently using 6 LBKs.

Beers I regularly brew:
Bell's Best Brown clone
Irish Hills Red - I call this "Ann Arbor Red"
Mackinac Island Red - I call this "Michigan Red"
Oatmeal Stout - I call this Not Fat, Stout - Oatmeal Stout

Bottled 5 gallons of Ann Arbor Red on 4/18/17. Bottled 5 gallons of Michigan Red on 5/8/17.

Brewed in 2017 - 22.13 gallons (19.91 in 2012, 48.06 in 2013, 61.39 in 2014, 84.26 in 2015,46.39 in 2016)
Brewed in lifetime - 282.14 gallons
Drinkable beer on hand -  13.58 cases, with 6.11 cases ready in May and early June.
Average cost per 12 pack through all beer brewed - $6.27(ingredients only)
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by jimjohson »

RickBeer wrote:He's trying to calculate the SRM of the nocturnal blend grain by taking a weighted average of the components. Chocolate is 350, but only comprises 50% of the blend, so it gets 175. Add them all up and you get 280.375, which apparently you can then input into the software as one grain with that SRM instead of putting in the four different grains with different amounts.
Recalculated SRM, ok thanks Rick
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
braukasper
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 465
Joined: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:08 am

Re: The Nocturnal Grain Blend

Post by braukasper »

That is it exactly. When working on multiple versions of a recipe I find it easier this way. One entry instead of 4 or 5. I know that I have the same percentages. thanks for catching my typing mistake. The recipe I am working on comes up the same if I use the grain blend or each grain separately. The percentages came from Northern Brewer who sells this particular grain blend. I am pretty sure you can enter custom hop blends with this method too. however with the variances in AA% it would probably be best to those manually
Lebe das Leben. Um in vollen Zügen. Trinken zu Hause brauen!
Live life. To the fullest. Drink home brew!!
Post Reply