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Hello Borg
The Short Version:
Roanoke Sucks
We can't find a house...
Roanoke architecture sucks
I was in the hospital but am now fine however...
Roanoke Medical System sucks
There is nothing to do here if you are in a wheelchair
Roanoke's park system sucks
It is as hot here as it was in Texas (where it didn't snow)
Roanoke's weather sucks
We are so out of here
We went to Greenville SC and bought a lot and we are going to rebuild our old/custom house.
Sorry I haven't checked in with you guys; I can't believe how long it has been since I've been on.
SOOO... Now I need your help/opinions for my new house.
There is gas service at this lot and I am trying to decide whether to use gas for cooking as I have not used it before.
There are lovers and haters all over the internet with apparent cons being that it takes forever to boil water and oven temps are unreliable. This would obviously be bad for stove top brewing so I'm coming to my brewing brothers and sisters for comments.
I'm not sure that it is gas vs. electric or just the quality of the appliance itself that makes the difference.
Oh I also saw something about "duel-fuel" if any of you have that please provide two cents.
We were making fine beer with electric so I'm good to stay with that but had always thought that gas was considered better.
Thanks all.
Now that we don't have to stress over housing any more I hope to be on more often.
Roanoke Sucks
We can't find a house...
Roanoke architecture sucks
I was in the hospital but am now fine however...
Roanoke Medical System sucks
There is nothing to do here if you are in a wheelchair
Roanoke's park system sucks
It is as hot here as it was in Texas (where it didn't snow)
Roanoke's weather sucks
We are so out of here
We went to Greenville SC and bought a lot and we are going to rebuild our old/custom house.
Sorry I haven't checked in with you guys; I can't believe how long it has been since I've been on.
SOOO... Now I need your help/opinions for my new house.
There is gas service at this lot and I am trying to decide whether to use gas for cooking as I have not used it before.
There are lovers and haters all over the internet with apparent cons being that it takes forever to boil water and oven temps are unreliable. This would obviously be bad for stove top brewing so I'm coming to my brewing brothers and sisters for comments.
I'm not sure that it is gas vs. electric or just the quality of the appliance itself that makes the difference.
Oh I also saw something about "duel-fuel" if any of you have that please provide two cents.
We were making fine beer with electric so I'm good to stay with that but had always thought that gas was considered better.
Thanks all.
Now that we don't have to stress over housing any more I hope to be on more often.
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Re: Hello Borg
Good to see you posting again, Birdie! Sorry Roanoke didn't work out for you, and I hope South Carolina works out better for you.
FWIW, here are my thoughts on gas vs. electric. Bear in mind that I've mostly used gas, only using electric when I was renting for a brief time, and I've never brewed on anything other than gas.
But I feel gas gives you more control. Minor adjustments can be made, and they're immediate. With an electric range, it takes time for temperature changes to occur, and you can't make very small adjustments. Just today, for instance, I was monitoring my sparge water, and I could tickle the level of heat ever so slightly up or down so I didn't spike too high or drop too low. I doubt I could have done that with an electric range.
I've also read comments from Borg members who have electric ranges and they're often very frustrated with them for brewing purposes.
Again, I have my own preferences and prejudices, but I've only brewed with gas, and have used two different appliances in doing so. And I'm pleased with what I've got.
FWIW, here are my thoughts on gas vs. electric. Bear in mind that I've mostly used gas, only using electric when I was renting for a brief time, and I've never brewed on anything other than gas.
But I feel gas gives you more control. Minor adjustments can be made, and they're immediate. With an electric range, it takes time for temperature changes to occur, and you can't make very small adjustments. Just today, for instance, I was monitoring my sparge water, and I could tickle the level of heat ever so slightly up or down so I didn't spike too high or drop too low. I doubt I could have done that with an electric range.
I've also read comments from Borg members who have electric ranges and they're often very frustrated with them for brewing purposes.
Again, I have my own preferences and prejudices, but I've only brewed with gas, and have used two different appliances in doing so. And I'm pleased with what I've got.
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Glad you're back. There wasn't enough non-sensical babbling here without you.
Duel fuel is when two guys are fighting over a can of gas. Dual Fuel is an appliance that runs on both natural gas (stove top burners) and electric (oven). It also is a designation for something that can run on propane or natural gas with an orifice change (watch everyone get all excited because I used the word orifice).
We would only have a natural gas stove. Many offer one or more burners with higher BTU outputs than the rest of them, and sometimes a lower simmer level on one or more burners. You'll want to compare the BTUs of specific burner configurations. However, also note that it does seem to me that a difference in gas pressure exists in different areas - my in-laws piece of garbage stove that is very old puts out way more BTUs than ours does - and so does their neighbor's stove - so we feel they have higher gas pressure there. At our house here and prior, the stove top was gas, and the wall oven was electric.
We actually use natural gas for our outdoor grill. It isn't as hot as propane (discussed ad nauseum here before), but it's much cheaper.
I will alert the folks in Greenville that the quality of their city is about to drop some. I was worried as there is a Greenville, MI, but then saw the "SC" and breathed easier.
Oh, almost forgot. Glad you're out of the hospital and well again. Bet it feels good not to have that white jacket with long arms wrapped so tightly around you.
Duel fuel is when two guys are fighting over a can of gas. Dual Fuel is an appliance that runs on both natural gas (stove top burners) and electric (oven). It also is a designation for something that can run on propane or natural gas with an orifice change (watch everyone get all excited because I used the word orifice).
We would only have a natural gas stove. Many offer one or more burners with higher BTU outputs than the rest of them, and sometimes a lower simmer level on one or more burners. You'll want to compare the BTUs of specific burner configurations. However, also note that it does seem to me that a difference in gas pressure exists in different areas - my in-laws piece of garbage stove that is very old puts out way more BTUs than ours does - and so does their neighbor's stove - so we feel they have higher gas pressure there. At our house here and prior, the stove top was gas, and the wall oven was electric.
We actually use natural gas for our outdoor grill. It isn't as hot as propane (discussed ad nauseum here before), but it's much cheaper.
I will alert the folks in Greenville that the quality of their city is about to drop some. I was worried as there is a Greenville, MI, but then saw the "SC" and breathed easier.
Oh, almost forgot. Glad you're out of the hospital and well again. Bet it feels good not to have that white jacket with long arms wrapped so tightly around you.
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Re: Hello Borg
So good to hear from you and am sorry things suck. I hope it gets better much quicker.
I like gas stove and water heaters and electric ovens. I find that to be the most efficient way but to each his own.
Please keep us updated and let us know how things are.
I like gas stove and water heaters and electric ovens. I find that to be the most efficient way but to each his own.
Please keep us updated and let us know how things are.
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Re: Hello Borg
Great to see you again. Sorry to hear of all the problems, but sometimes life just sucks. All this will change for you with the SC move, I just know it.
I will never have a range that is NOT dual fuel. A gas range is the only way to go (unless there is NO option) and with an electric range, you have the best of both worlds.
Again, all will go fantastic for you, check in when you can.
I will never have a range that is NOT dual fuel. A gas range is the only way to go (unless there is NO option) and with an electric range, you have the best of both worlds.
Again, all will go fantastic for you, check in when you can.
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Re: Hello Borg
Birds!
Sorry you didn't like our kinda backward state!
Best of luck wherever you land and welcome back!
Sorry you didn't like our kinda backward state!
Best of luck wherever you land and welcome back!
Re: Hello Borg
Hi there Brew Birds. I agree with the Hat on gas giving you more control. It is usually cheaper too.
Re: Hello Borg
Good to see you again. We have an electric range/oven, and I wish it was gas.
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Re: Hello Borg
Glad to hear all is better now and your back with us,my vote is gas for control.
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Re: Hello Borg
Birds I have use both a lot and think gas is better as Dave said, much more controllable. While I can't speak to brewing beer on both just boiling water to cook, gas (we use propane) boils faster IMHO
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Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
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Re: Hello Borg
Sorry to hear your move to Roanoke did not work out, but good to see you on here again.
I can't speak on behalf of brewing, but for everything else, I prefer gas (propane) over electric. It might take longer to boil water, but everything else is just superior (IMHO).
I can't speak on behalf of brewing, but for everything else, I prefer gas (propane) over electric. It might take longer to boil water, but everything else is just superior (IMHO).
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Keg1:
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Bottled:
Nothing!
Fermenting:
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Fermenter 2 (1 gal.): Empty
On Deck:
Something?!
Re: Hello Borg
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope things get better for you soon.
Gas.
Gas.
Re: Hello Borg
Happy to see you back BB. Hope your new state works out good for you. We use gas, here it is cheaper then electric.
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Re: Hello Borg
So glad to see you chirping around the forum again after all your trials. Welcome back!
BTW I have gas , but have an electric stove but would prefer a gas one.
BTW I have gas , but have an electric stove but would prefer a gas one.
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Re: Hello Borg
Glad to see your still thinking of us. Welcome back! I have used both electric and gas. My current situation is an electric glass top, I HATE it, period. This weekend I bought SWMBO a new fridge and dishwasher, and 6 months back a new washer and dryer, so she promised me I get to pick the next appliance. We looked around, and u better believe it's going to be a Wolf gas-top/convection oven combo. Nothing cooks as good as gas in my experience. just my 1 & 3/4 cents worth.
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