Pale Ale?
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Pale Ale?
Didn't really know where to post this, but figured it's a basic recipe. I wanted to brew up a lighter beer (currently I have a wheat and a red as my only non dark brews). I also decided to use up some of the hops I've had hanging around my freezer from other recipes. I'm not a hop head, so I don't drop 1 or 2 oz of hops in a brew and call it a day. I've got a half ounce or more of 6 or 7 different hops! I decided to use them and try and formulate a recipe around them. I've chosen what I think may be a decent pale ale, but really, I guess it doesn't matter what I call it, it'll be beer!
I'm using:
2lb 6-row Pale Malt
1.5lb 2-row Pale Malt
1lb Caramel 20L
.5 Carapils/Dextrine
Hopped with:
.25oz Centennial 60min
.25oz/.25oz Fuggles 20min/10min
.25oz/.25oz E. Kent Goldings 20min/10min
It's looking like 1.055SG, 36IBU 7SRM and 6%abv
I'm just worried about the dropoff in the hops, since they've been open in my freezer for a few months. I don't mind if the beer isn't super hoppy, I just need to make sure they do their job against the malt to give me a decent balance. Anyone have experience using secondhand hops? Should I up their numbers to account for dropoff ?
EDIT: I guess this should have been in the Advanced section.
I'm using:
2lb 6-row Pale Malt
1.5lb 2-row Pale Malt
1lb Caramel 20L
.5 Carapils/Dextrine
Hopped with:
.25oz Centennial 60min
.25oz/.25oz Fuggles 20min/10min
.25oz/.25oz E. Kent Goldings 20min/10min
It's looking like 1.055SG, 36IBU 7SRM and 6%abv
I'm just worried about the dropoff in the hops, since they've been open in my freezer for a few months. I don't mind if the beer isn't super hoppy, I just need to make sure they do their job against the malt to give me a decent balance. Anyone have experience using secondhand hops? Should I up their numbers to account for dropoff ?
EDIT: I guess this should have been in the Advanced section.
Fermenting: Dad's Lemonade (Pale Ale)
Conditioning/Drinking: Paths of Nutty(Brown), spALTered Time (German Altbier)
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Conditioning/Drinking: Paths of Nutty(Brown), spALTered Time (German Altbier)
On Deck: Return of the Imperial (Imperial Stout)
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Re: Pale Ale?
imo if you couldn't smell hops when you opened the freezer i doubt you'll have much drop off
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Re: Pale Ale?
agreeing with jim on this one. you should be good to go. sounds like a really nice brew!
Re: Pale Ale?
Yep. I've used hops that have been in the freezer for 4-5 months with no detectable difference. As long as they've been sealed up good and airtight, shouldn't be a problem. Recipe looks good too!
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Hey Gizmo,
My only concern in looking at the recipe is that you've got 1.5lbs of specialty grain in a 5lb batch. The 1lb of C20 and the .5lb of carapils appear to be a bit heavy in proportions to the 6row/2row. Mind you, that's just eye-balling this. If you've used this grain bill before with good results, pay me no nevermind.
My only concern in looking at the recipe is that you've got 1.5lbs of specialty grain in a 5lb batch. The 1lb of C20 and the .5lb of carapils appear to be a bit heavy in proportions to the 6row/2row. Mind you, that's just eye-balling this. If you've used this grain bill before with good results, pay me no nevermind.
Re: Pale Ale?
Good catch Kealia. That's about 43% of the total grain bill. I try to stay below 20%. 10-15% is the "accepted norm". As Kealia said, if it works for you, go for it!
Fermenting: Bucket 1 - Fresh Squeezed IPA; Bucket 2 - Empty
Kegged: Keg 1 - Irish Red; Keg 2 - Cream Ale; Keg 3 - Amber Ale; Keg 4 - APA; Keg 5 - Empty; Keg 6 - Empty; Keg 7 - Empty
The reason why the above list is so small Home Theater Build
Kegged: Keg 1 - Irish Red; Keg 2 - Cream Ale; Keg 3 - Amber Ale; Keg 4 - APA; Keg 5 - Empty; Keg 6 - Empty; Keg 7 - Empty
The reason why the above list is so small Home Theater Build
Re: Pale Ale?
I'm sure you guys are right, too late now, but that would possibly explain why I ended up way lower on my OG as well. BeerSmith had me at 1.055 and I only ended up at 1.031, and I didn't do anything differently than normal. I should have done 2lb of 2row and .5lb of Caramel 20L. I wanted to keep the numbers easy to remember for my trip to the LHBS and forgot to keep my specialty grains low. I guess I'll find out soon enough how it turns out.
Fermenting: Dad's Lemonade (Pale Ale)
Conditioning/Drinking: Paths of Nutty(Brown), spALTered Time (German Altbier)
On Deck: Return of the Imperial (Imperial Stout)
Conditioning/Drinking: Paths of Nutty(Brown), spALTered Time (German Altbier)
On Deck: Return of the Imperial (Imperial Stout)
Re: Pale Ale?
Even with OG of 1.031, you'll still have beer!
Fermenting: Bucket 1 - Fresh Squeezed IPA; Bucket 2 - Empty
Kegged: Keg 1 - Irish Red; Keg 2 - Cream Ale; Keg 3 - Amber Ale; Keg 4 - APA; Keg 5 - Empty; Keg 6 - Empty; Keg 7 - Empty
The reason why the above list is so small Home Theater Build
Kegged: Keg 1 - Irish Red; Keg 2 - Cream Ale; Keg 3 - Amber Ale; Keg 4 - APA; Keg 5 - Empty; Keg 6 - Empty; Keg 7 - Empty
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Re: Pale Ale?
You can go here and look at recommended malt ratios in batches. Has helped me.
http://www.beersmith.com/Grains/Grains/GrainList.htm
http://www.beersmith.com/Grains/Grains/GrainList.htm
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Re: Pale Ale?
It shouldn't have affected your OG at all. The specialty grains would just be unfermentable sugars, but they would still be sugars. So it would affect your FG (ending up high and malty). I'd look elsewhere for the issue on this one.Gizmo wrote:I'm sure you guys are right, too late now, but that would possibly explain why I ended up way lower on my OG as well. BeerSmith had me at 1.055 and I only ended up at 1.031, and I didn't do anything differently than normal. I should have done 2lb of 2row and .5lb of Caramel 20L. I wanted to keep the numbers easy to remember for my trip to the LHBS and forgot to keep my specialty grains low. I guess I'll find out soon enough how it turns out.