The first Bock I ever brewed was Jamil's recipe from BCS. It did well in a competition, but faded fast. The beer just seemed too busy to me, too much going on in there, and I almost had to wash it down with something else after drinking a couple. So, one of the first recipes I built myself was ReBock.
I began with the assumption (right or wrong) that a basic starting point for a Traditional Bock would be 2:1 Munich/Pilsner. I did the reverse for a Maibock... 2:1 Pilsner/Munich. Munich already brings a sweetness to the beer and I love C-120 for it's dark fruit flavors. You have to cut it with some good old Pilsner. What's a German lager without Pilsner, right ? The DeHusked Carafa II is mainly for color. I went with the DeHusked to avoid anything flavor component the roasted husks might bring. It might be worth using the husked version just to see if that was a smart move or not. The Melanoidin was just to overall enhance the malt perception. Roughly 30 IBUs of a clean hop like Magnum seemed like a reasonable target. That is a little high, but so it the OG. Wyeast 2206 is just a strain I've gone to with most of my lagers simply because the rest of the free world uses WLP830 German Lager Yeast--Wyeast 2124 Bohemian Lager Yeast--Saflager W-34/70 Lager Dry Yeast.
This version uses Pilsner DME in place of 6 lbs of Weyermann Pilsner. First time using DME in this recipe.
I've had good success with this in the past with a gold in a small BJCP comp and a bronze in a larger one. Ferment cool and slow allowing for a nice steady ferment and it'll end up a 8-8.5% beer that really creeps up on you. It is outside of the BJCP guidelines, but not a single judge has caught on to that yet
Re-Bock
Traditional Bock
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (G): 6.0
Total Grain (lb): 14.750
Total Hops (oz): 1.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.081 (°P): 19.6
Final Gravity (FG): 1.014 (°P): 3.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 8.81 %
Colour (SRM): 18.4 (EBC): 36.2
Bitterness (IBU): 29.1 (Tinseth)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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10.000 lb Munich II (67.8%)
4.000 lb Dry Malt Extract- Pilsner (27.12%)
0.250 lb Crystal 120 (1.69%)
0.250 lb De-Husked Carafa II (1.69%)
0.250 lb Melanoidin (1.69%)
Hop Bill
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1.00 oz Magnum Pellet (12.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 oz/Gal)
Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 152°F for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 48°F with Wyeast 2206 - Bavarian Lager
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ReBock
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Re: ReBock
"The DeHusked Carafa II is mainly for color. I went with the DeHusked to avoid anything flavor component the roasted husks might bring. It might be worth using the husked version just to see if that was a smart move or not."
I learned the had way that there is quite a difference between the Carafa and Carafa Special (special is the De-husked). I brewed a Southern English Brown Ale and recipe called for .25lb Carafa Special, well I used regular Carafa and that addition brought it up more to a small Porter. The beer was still good, but the roast character is night and day. I would imagine using the regular Carafa would be way too much roast for this.
Having had a couple of your Bock's (not sure which versions)...I don't think they need much tweaking. As for yeast, I'm on that Bohemian wagon...it's the only Lager yeast I have used and love it. Nice crisp clean lager, but with big maltyness, big mouthfeel but not from sweetness.
I learned the had way that there is quite a difference between the Carafa and Carafa Special (special is the De-husked). I brewed a Southern English Brown Ale and recipe called for .25lb Carafa Special, well I used regular Carafa and that addition brought it up more to a small Porter. The beer was still good, but the roast character is night and day. I would imagine using the regular Carafa would be way too much roast for this.
Having had a couple of your Bock's (not sure which versions)...I don't think they need much tweaking. As for yeast, I'm on that Bohemian wagon...it's the only Lager yeast I have used and love it. Nice crisp clean lager, but with big maltyness, big mouthfeel but not from sweetness.
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Re: ReBock
I've cold steeped the dark grains too with good results. All the color, a lot less roasty/bitter. I'll be doing this again for my annual "+3 Kolsch of Darkness" type of brew.
Re: ReBock
I hate DME. That stuff is dehydrated goo. It is instant mess. Just add water. Hell, just add moisture. You don't even really need water. Powdery residue on a countertop can turn to hidden bumps of concrete.
No problems with it today on brew day but simply because I've "been there... done that" before. I've learned the hard way.
No problems with it today on brew day but simply because I've "been there... done that" before. I've learned the hard way.
Re: ReBock
OG 1.078
That'll do. It's in the chest freezer chilling to 46 and then I'll pitch some Wyeast 2206 and aerate.
That'll do. It's in the chest freezer chilling to 46 and then I'll pitch some Wyeast 2206 and aerate.
Re: ReBock
Fermentation kicked up and was cranking decent after 24 hrs. I held it at 46 for 4 days and bumped the controller to 55. It took 12-15 hrs for the temp to ramp up to that point and it'll stay there for the remainder of two weeks. Yesterday it started winding down.
Re: ReBock
OG 1.078
FG 1.018
7.86 abv
FG 1.018
7.86 abv
Re: ReBock
Pulled one of these from the tap. It is very young, but not a fan of the 1.018 FG. It is still clean enough and the no lingering flavor. It just needs to be a tad drier.