My early RedX recipe

Post by **Beer-lord** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:43 pm

Screwy and BigPapaG.....thoughts???
I won't be brewing this for a while and have gone back and forth so far and think I like this but I may remove the Vienna if it adds too much to take away from the RedX malt.
For now, Amarillo and Citra are my hop thoughts though I will likely add Simcoe as well (and maybe a new, never tried hop at the end).
I've read that many like a bit of Munich with this as it matches nicely. I'm aiming for a higher ale, low IPA but not a session. Between 5.5% and 6% max. I plan to mash low at about 150.
I'm sure this will change again as I can never feel settled on a recipe, ala OCD!

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Redbeer
Brewer: Paul
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.74 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 14.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 0.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 76.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 76.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs RedX (BestMälz) (15.2 SRM) Grain 1 78.8 %
1 lbs Borlander Munich Malt (Briess) (10.0 SRM Grain 2 7.9 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (Briess) (3.5 SRM) Grain 3 7.9 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 4 3.9 %
3.0 oz Honey Malt (Gambrinus) (25.0 SRM) Grain 5 1.5 %

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 11.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 15.86 qt of water at 168.4 F 150.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 4.30 gal water at 168.0 F

BigPapaG · Post by **BigPapaG** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:07 pm

Looks great to me!

I like the mash temp and hop choices as well!

And can't wait to hear about the 'mystery hop!'

Post by **Beer-lord** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:12 pm

No big secret but maybe some Equinox or some Wai-Iti that I have a small amount of near the end of the boil or dry hop. I'm not sure if mixing both is a good idea so it will likely be Equinox which I know nothing about so why not.

BigPapaG · Post by **BigPapaG** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:21 pm

Mmmm...

IMHO, Wai-iti would be great! But I'm not a fan of Equinox yet...

Post by **Beer-lord** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:19 pm

Enjoying a red at a local tap room

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BigPapaG · Post by **BigPapaG** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:35 pm

Research is so important, don't you think?

Post by **Beer-lord** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:46 pm

Oh, I did the research and this one is a winner. This little tap room knows that this one is a winner and they will soon start bottling this one in bombers. Good choice!

Post by **Beer-lord** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:58 pm

Updated recipe. I cut the Vienna in half and added some hops I want to play with and think I may mash at 152 but will, of course, make changes since it might be a month before I get to brew this.

El Rojo Incognito

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: El Rojo Incognito
Brewer: Paul
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.74 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.055 SG
Estimated Color: 14.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 66.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 76.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 76.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs RedX (BestMälz) (15.2 SRM) Grain 1 82.0 %
1 lbs Borlander Munich Malt (Briess) (10.0 SRM Grain 2 8.2 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 3 4.1 %
8.0 oz Vienna Malt (Briess) (3.5 SRM) Grain 4 4.1 %
3.0 oz Honey Malt (Gambrinus) (25.0 SRM) Grain 5 1.6 %
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 23.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.00 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 7 23.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Azacca [12.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 14.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.00 %] - Boil 5.0 m Hop 9 4.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.00 %] - Steep/Whir Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpoo Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 12 -
2.00 oz Equinox (HBC 366) [15.00 %] - Dry Hop 5. Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Da Hop 14 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 3.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 30.53 qt of water at 161.7 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min

mashani · Post by **mashani** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:30 pm

I'm scared of all that Equinox. Unless the beer I made with 2oz of it changes a lot since I bottled it. I'll likely pop the test bottle of that in about a week, so can give you revised impression then. But at bottling the green peppery stuff was intense.

But I suppose it is possible that I am a super taster of whatever it is that gives it that flavor, who knows.

Post by **Beer-lord** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:16 pm

Funny you should mention this because I've been reading about it all day. Seems it either goes green pepper or tropical. Many say only use it as a dry hop.
I'm not brewing this for a while so I would greatly appreciate your thoughts when you open your bottle.
I may just end up moving the hops around so the equinox is only at flameout and dry hop and move the others up instead.
I did get more RedX so after I mess this one up, I will try different hops but I do want to see what it will do even if it does clash a bit with the malt.

At what stage did you add the Equinox?
Why is it so popular?
http://beerpulse.com/2014/04/equinox-hb ... ideo-2878/

mashani · Post by **mashani** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:48 pm

I did it in 2.5 gallon batch as:

1oz Equinox hops (13.4% AA) @10
1oz Equinox hops @Flameout

And then I let all those hops steep in the pot with the lid on for a 30 minute hop stand.

I didn't use any other hops, I just wanted to see what Equinox was about.

I didn't use any for traditional bittering addition because they were high enough AA hops that with the extra hop stand utilization gave me far more IBUs then a pale ale needed without any traditional bittering.

There was tropical in there. But it got hammered by the green peppery vibe. If you have had a green chili beer with a chili in the bottle - and can imagine adding more green chilies, but taking away the heat - well that's what it was like.

I'll know more in a week or so when I pop a conditioned bottle vs. a bottling sample.

Kealia · Post by **Kealia** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:38 pm

It looks like I won't be using any Red X anytime soon. I was thinking about buying some to do a 5G test batch, but shipping is $11.99. Even if I threw in enough hops for the recipe, I'd be spending $15 on ingredients and $12 on shipping. I don't buy in large quantities because I don't brew often enough to warrant it nor do I have or want a grain mill.

MoreBeer doesn't carry it so I can't pick it up locally so I'll just live vicariously through you guys for a while. Please keep us posted!

Post by **Beer-lord** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:41 pm

I just bought from Farmhouse, 12 lbs of Red X, 4 oz each of Huel Melon, Azacca and Wai-ti hops and paid $10.99. Not great but not bad.
We can't get it locally here either but next time I'm at my LHBS, I'm going to ask them to think about stocking it.

Kealia · Post by **Kealia** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:15 pm

Yeah, that's where I was looking (Farmhouse). If I had more to buy, or equipment to go with it I wouldn't mind the shipping but it just seems out of balance to pay that much for shipping on a small order. I'll just plan on brewing the Simcoe beer I've been wanting this coming weekend and keep something with Red X in mind. Of course, I can always just drink more of the Patalska, too

mashani · Post by **mashani** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:02 pm

Hey, Beer-Lord: I am drinking my Equinox beer and actually liking it. So that's good news. I will post a more detailed review on it's thread, which will be bumped so you should see it.