Peak Oil

[HerbMeowing]

Hop curious about dual or multi-purpose varieties with higher percentage 'total oil'.

My List
Variety / Max total oil (>= 2%)
Amarillo 1.9
Centennial 2.5
CTZ 3.5
Crystal 2
Horizon 2.6
Haulertau mittelfruh 2
Northern Brewer 2
Nugget 2.3
Simcoe 2.5
Warrior 2

Anything to add?

[BigPapaG]

Hmmm, often wondered about oil percentages...

Also, Ile Alpha and Beta acid percentages, I would expect variances from crop to crop...

Perhaps if would be nice to see hop providers provide more info than just alpha and beta acid values...

Like how much Myrcene... Or another oil...

Maybe just the first three prominent ones per hop by percentage...

I don't know... Might help when standing in the LHBS looking at all the hops and sort of designing on the fly...

Wait... Nobody does that...

[mashani]

@BigPapaG, some listings for you enjoyment, (edit: although they don't help with crop variations.)

http://beerlegends.com/humulene-oil
http://beerlegends.com/myrcene-oil
http://beerlegends.com/caryophyllene-oil
http://beerlegends.com/farnesene-oil

Heres a few more:

Apollo is described as up to 2.5%. Although I think one batch I had of it was more like 4%, it literally put a lupulin colored oil slick on top of my wort. Another time I used Apollo it wasn't so much.

Also, SBG/Yakima Chief says:

Citra is 2.2-2.8%

Equinox is listed at 2.5-4.5%. I think the batch I had of that was of the 4.5% variety. It make a freaking mess coating my entire fermenter with fun multi-colored oily residue. It was like that Apollo batch I mentioned, except psychedelic.

[HerbMeowing]

Heres a few more:
Apollo is described as up to 2.5%. Although I think one batch I had of it was more like 4% [...]

Also, SBG/Yakima Chief says: Citra is 2.2-2.8%

Equinox is listed at 2.5-4.5%.
I think the batch I had of that was of the 4.5% variety.

Thx.
My hop reference sheet doesn't yet have many of the newer varieties.

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Brewing an Apollo pseudo-SMaSH this weekend.
Pseudo b/c usually bitter w/something other than the featured hop.
Otherwise ... it's turned out to be too much of a good thing.

Which hop might could best complement Apollo?
CTZ or Magnum?

[mashani]

Apollo is kind of like CTZ with less citrus and a bunch earthy/dank and dope resin added. (I have not better word to describe it besides dope. it's dopey.).

Magnum for bittering would not change that. A bit late would had some floral notes that it doesn't have, but I'm not sure that it would make it better.

Some CTZ mixed in as part of the flavor/aroma would kick up the citrus and pine a bit and temper the dope a bit.

Honesty I like it as a single hop in a malty (think German) grain bill, but if I was going to add something to it in a more traditional IPA/APA type of bill or a SMaSH type of bill, I think I'd mix it with some Amarillo, or Mosiac or something else with some kind of juicy or berry like flavor/aroma. That would complement it.

[Beer-lord]

On a slightly similar note, on a podcast recently I heard that you should take your hops out the freezer for 24 before using them. Gerard Lemmens, mentions taking your hops out of the freezer 24 hours before brewing. He says there are volatol hop oils that need to be warmed and drivin off. It is mainly for hop pellets that will be used for the aroma addition and dry hopping.
I take them out a few hours before use on brewday but I go from the freezer to the fermenter for dry hopping. Hmmmm, anyone else see this as possible?

[Dawg LB Steve]

Interesting, Paul. I will definitely be on the prowl to find out and interested to hear what the knowledgeable Borg has on the subject of letting hops get to room temp a day ahead of time.

[mashani]

I just take them out an hour or two before I use them too.

I don't see how it would make any difference. Various oils are driven off at various temps yes that is true. That is why you hopstand at lower temps - to keep some of the oils from being driven off (the opposite of what he is describing).

If you toss those pellets into your wort and they dissolve into tiny bits (that's what they do for me?) and your wort is 180 degrees, those tiny bits are also 180 degrees and anything that vaporizes at 180 degrees is gonna vaporize.

Your hops don't have enough thermal mass to make a dent in wort temperature, even if they are frozen. They are going to get very hot very fast.

So ???

Maybe for dry hopping it matters more? But I still don't see that, given that there is days of contact going on there. Whatever is going to vaporize is still gonna do it over that timeframe. You might be delaying the start of that process for an hour or something, that's all.

[Kealia]

On a slightly similar note, on a podcast recently I heard that you should take your hops out the freezer for 24 before using them. Gerard Lemmens, mentions taking your hops out of the freezer 24 hours before brewing. He says there are volatol hop oils that need to be warmed and drivin off. It is mainly for hop pellets that will be used for the aroma addition and dry hopping.
I take them out a few hours before use on brewday but I go from the freezer to the fermenter for dry hopping. Hmmmm, anyone else see this as possible?

You have a link to the podcast? I'd like to hear more about this. Given how fast they come up to the temp of the wort/beer I'm interested to see what is being discussed.

[HerbMeowing]

... mix it with some Amarillo, or Mosiac or something else with some kind of juicy or berry like flavor/aroma. That would complement it.

All right ... then. Been looking for a vehicle to use up some leftover Mosaic.