RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Vent, Rant, Chat or just talk about whatever is on your mind! Keep it civil though!

Moderators: BlackDuck, Beer-lord, LouieMacGoo, philm00x, gwcr

User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

We decided to do a couple. First a Märzen then a Landbier
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
philm00x
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2990
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:11 pm
Location: Winter Park, FL
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by philm00x »

Standard infusion mash, step mash, or decoction(s)? I honestly had a ton of fun doing a marzen with the single decoction, for as much work as it took to brew. I don't think I would do more than one decoction though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Official page of Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.

Up Next
Koning Oranje

Currently at Mr. Rufus Brewing Co.
Fermenting
Nothing :(
Conditioning
Nothing :(
Drinking
58. Choco Brown
60. Etcitra, Etcitra
61. Bubs' Pale Wheat Xtra
62. Ottoberfest
Brew Queue
ROAR! Bacon
Bombay
Saint Sebastian Tripel
Bubs' Pale Ale

User avatar
mashani
mashani
mashani
Posts: 6743
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 pm

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by mashani »

How are you defining the parameters for you Landbier? To me that means - some kind of local session beer - and anything else is just whatever it is they happen to like wherever that local happens to be.
User avatar
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
FedoraDave
Posts: 4208
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
Location: North and west of the city
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by FedoraDave »

Very ambitious! I like that. Good luck with both of them.
Obey The Hat!

http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com

Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Up Next:
FedoraDave's American Ale
Fermenting/Conditioning
Natural 20 Pale Ale -- Bull Terrier Best Bitter -- King Duncan's Porter -- Schöenwald Schwarzbier -- Littlejohn's Ale
Drinking:
Crown Top Pale Ale
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

mashani wrote:How are you defining the parameters for you Landbier? To me that means - some kind of local session beer - and anything else is just whatever it is they happen to like wherever that local happens to be.
philm00x wrote:Standard infusion mash, step mash, or decoction(s)? I honestly had a ton of fun doing a marzen with the single decoction, for as much work as it took to brew. I don't think I would do more than one decoction though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
single infusion

mashani wrote:How are you defining the parameters for you Landbier? To me that means - some kind of local session beer - and anything else is just whatever it is they happen to like wherever that local happens to be.
This is the tough one, very little specific information. No style in BeerSmith for Landbier/Kellerbier(tastes about the same), so I'm using a Munich Helles as a guide.(I'm open to better ideas) Also what I remember, but that was some 35 years ago. What I mostly remember is a malt forward lightly hopped, can be into the mid 5% ABV range, from as light as a pilsner to as dark as a bock(I liked the dark ones most). Unsure as to the yeast. Something old poppa made, so I think perhaps we should use say s-33. We'll still be better off, cause in real life they probably used bread yeast. So far my grain bill consists of 2 row and Vienna (we're using pilsner malt in the Märzen, don't want to do two 90 min boils back to back). Of course this all is just "in the rough" just to get a "feel" for it.
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

Brewed the Märzen today missed my expected OG by .002(low side)
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
The_Professor
Uber Brewer
Uber Brewer
Posts: 1018
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:52 pm
Location: Calif, USA

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by The_Professor »

Very interesting choice. I was recently looking up Kellerbier as someone I know received some real German beer and two of them were Kellerbiers. One lighter and one Dunkel. This article sums up what I read about the styles.
What I found most interesting is that it has crossed my mind to do a real Olde Style Alt Bier, but what would that be? Looking at Kellerbier has suggested to me, 100% Munich malt, moderate FWH (Hallertau?) (20-25 IBU), fermented with German Ale yeast, bottled at 10-14 days with yeast, mixed gently at serving. I understood Landbier to be similar as in process rather than style and quite similar.
User avatar
Rayyankee
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 257
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:48 pm
Location: central CA foothills of the southern sierras

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by Rayyankee »

Got my ingredients for the marzen but unfortunatly didn't get a chance to brew this yet. Will have to wait til this weekend.
Not sure yet as to the exaxt recipe for the other beer yyet still doing a little more research.

Cheers Ray
User avatar
mashani
mashani
mashani
Posts: 6743
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:57 pm

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by mashani »

The_Professor wrote:I understood Landbier to be similar as in process rather than style and quite similar.
Honestly they can be just about anything folks like as long as you can drink more then one of them. Everyplace has their own version.

It's like fresh served Belgian beer in Belgium - the style isn't what people care about, only that it's good. Us Americans care way more about style classifications then those folks do.
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

The_Professor wrote:Very interesting choice. I was recently looking up Kellerbier as someone I know received some real German beer and two of them were Kellerbiers. One lighter and one Dunkel. This article sums up what I read about the styles.
What I found most interesting is that it has crossed my mind to do a real Olde Style Alt Bier, but what would that be? Looking at Kellerbier has suggested to me, 100% Munich malt, moderate FWH (Hallertau?) (20-25 IBU), fermented with German Ale yeast, bottled at 10-14 days with yeast, mixed gently at serving. I understood Landbier to be similar as in process rather than style and quite similar.

I found that article also even recognized 3 labels. An altbier...that's a thought. I've also thought about trying a weizensstarkbier http://www.choosy-beggars.com/index.php ... ring-tina/ took me 4 cases to I decided I liked it. The name means strong wheat
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

Ok I'll be brewing the Landbier tomorrow. I couldn't use 33 as planned we sold out last week so I went with Munton's plain ole brewers yeast.
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
Rayyankee
Fully Fermented
Fully Fermented
Posts: 257
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:48 pm
Location: central CA foothills of the southern sierras

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by Rayyankee »

Brewed the Marzen yesterday and just like Jim was 002 off my OG.
Not bad at all if you ask me.Will be picking up ingredients for the Landbier this weekend.

Cheers Ray
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

Won't be brewing today after all. Woke up sick.
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

Got the Landbier brewed today Got my gravities right but the amount was slightly more than expected. as a result my pre boil efficiency was 76%, but the brewhouse was 73%
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
User avatar
jimjohson
Brewer of the Month
Brewer of the Month
Posts: 2603
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:14 pm
Location: Cusseta Ga
Contact:

Re: RCE RayYankee & jimjohson

Post by jimjohson »

Just bottled the Märzen,. it actually finishes a couple points lower than expected. This whole brews been a couple points low every time :lol:
"Filled with mingled cream and amber
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chambers of my brain
-- Quaintest thoughts -- Queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away;
Who cares how time advances?
I am drinking ale today."

Edgar Allan Poe
Post Reply