Ok so just bought me a little demon....so the instructions say DO NOT USE ACID BASED SANITIZER. ...so im suppossed to use one step??
So do u guys still use star san anyway? it is acid based right?
Also one more question. About using airlock...do lhbs carry the required gasket or is that thing so weird u have to order from brewdemon
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When BrewDemon was having issues with spigot failures they claimed that they had traced the problem back to using the acid based sanitizer. I have been using StarSan with both my little demons and my Big Demon with no problems. Your mileage may very. As for the seal/gasket in the little demon, I've only ever used the one provided by BD. I'm sure you could make your own if you could find the right material.
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RE: the gasket, I say Ni! Or maybe Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing!
Unless you just happen to like staring at your airlock watching it bubble as some sort of meditation, my view is just put the plug back in, forget about the airlock, forget about the gasket, let your lid vent. Unless I am experiencing a fruit fly invasion, I don't even tighten my lid, I just set it on top with just enough turn to keep it from popping off if I move the fermenter. Regardless I don't bother with the gasket, it's just one more thing to clean.
You will make beer that is at worst just as good and at best even better then with the airlock depending on your yeast choice (IE for certain estery Belgian or British yeasts if you really keep the lid loose so that it free vents to simulate open fermentation). Unless you like to squeeze your fermenter lot and suck large amounts of air in, or have fruit flies and let them get in once CO2 stops venting, you won't get infections due to not having an airlock... beer infecting bacteria or yeast *can not* crawl up under your lid and get in, they can only "fall down" into things or get "sucked in" but that's only going to happen if you squeeze the thing a lot. Those kinds of bugs do not have motile cilia.
So my view is that airlocks are over rated, unless you are secondarying your beer for months on end.
Unless you just happen to like staring at your airlock watching it bubble as some sort of meditation, my view is just put the plug back in, forget about the airlock, forget about the gasket, let your lid vent. Unless I am experiencing a fruit fly invasion, I don't even tighten my lid, I just set it on top with just enough turn to keep it from popping off if I move the fermenter. Regardless I don't bother with the gasket, it's just one more thing to clean.
You will make beer that is at worst just as good and at best even better then with the airlock depending on your yeast choice (IE for certain estery Belgian or British yeasts if you really keep the lid loose so that it free vents to simulate open fermentation). Unless you like to squeeze your fermenter lot and suck large amounts of air in, or have fruit flies and let them get in once CO2 stops venting, you won't get infections due to not having an airlock... beer infecting bacteria or yeast *can not* crawl up under your lid and get in, they can only "fall down" into things or get "sucked in" but that's only going to happen if you squeeze the thing a lot. Those kinds of bugs do not have motile cilia.
So my view is that airlocks are over rated, unless you are secondarying your beer for months on end.
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I've used my BrewDemon LBCs (little brown conicals) with the airlock/lid gasket and without, just using the supplied plug. They work fine either way, using the airlock and lid gasket as mashani said it's just something else to clean. I've been only using the one step/easy step sanitizer/cleanser since starting with Mr. Beer and an all grain 1G kit as they've always worked fine for me. Just my 0.02 worth, YMMV.
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Thanks guys just always heard star san is better...plus i just bought a new bottle before getting fermenter
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I would suggest limiting the time you expose the spigot to the starsan and make sure to inspect it frequently.
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Re: Brewdemon questions
Starsan only needs a minute to do it's thingGman20 wrote:Thanks guys just always heard star san is better...plus i just bought a new bottle before getting fermenter