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I found this article today on BeerAdvocate about canning your own beer at home. There wasn't a lot of info about the machine that the author used so I did some digging and found a video on it and an Amazon link where you can buy it for about $600. Still a little pricy but how cool would it be to be able to can your own beer?

Article - https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/1 ... e-canning/

Amazon link - https://www.amazon.com/All-American-Mas ... ACXABFBRYS

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Depending on a home-brewer's wants and needs, this could be money well spent. Campers, hunters, fisherpeople, and people who do a lot of traveling would definitely find this preferable to bottling or kegging.

Me, I can't see too much of an advantage for myself. I've got my keezer (and growler fillers for those times when I want to bring beer to a cookout or a holiday party), and I still bottle some of my 2.5g batches, and they travel well to the spots I travel i.e. across town to my mom's house.

Brewer's choice, of course. But these are probably going to catch on with a lot of people. I understand they work very well. And it would definitely be cooler than a snowdrift in Saskatoon to bring your home-brew in cans on a fishing trip or a weekend in the woods.
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But, how much do the empty cans cost? I guess another question would be can you "de-can" (remove the lid) and then just replace the lid and re-use the rest of the can?

Can't seem to find much info.

EDIT: ok, I found cans, seems about 50 cents per can w/lid.

That adds $24 bucks to the cost per 5 gallon batch of beer if you canned all of it. That adds up to the price of kegs or reusable bottles pretty fast. In fact that's about how much I paid for my 740ml O2 barrier PETs on sale, and they last for dozens of batches. So I can give away my PETs and it doesn't cost me more... I guess you can't crush them under your boot in a satisfying manner while out in the woods, but you could fill them back up with water and then shoot at them instead if your into that...

I guess if you just wanted to can a few here and there it could be useful but I'm not sure I'd want to add that much to every batch cost.
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Like Mashani said...seems a bit cost prohibitive. BUT....it is pretty cool!!!
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Getting cheaper.........I love this. I keep hoping that a local mobile canning service around me does a "homebrew" day because I would love to have my own beer in cans. Just because.
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BlackDuck wrote:Like Mashani said...seems a bit cost prohibitive. BUT....it is pretty cool!!!
I agree Chris but I like that the cost is coming down and may actually be a viable option for homebrewers at some point. Also I could see a small brew pub getting one of these and offering 16, 32, and 64 oz cans of brew instead or growlers. This would be a cheap way for them to get into it as opposed to some of the more expensive options.
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LouieMacGoo wrote:
BlackDuck wrote:Like Mashani said...seems a bit cost prohibitive. BUT....it is pretty cool!!!
I agree Chris but I like that the cost is coming down and may actually be a viable option for homebrewers at some point. Also I could see a small brew pub getting one of these and offering 16, 32, and 64 oz cans of brew instead or growlers. This would be a cheap way for them to get into it as opposed to some of the more expensive options.
I'm thinking a good way for this to happen for home brewers is that a home brew club like yours pools some funds and buys the canner, and then folks can share it and pay for the cans they use.
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One of the brewtubers I follow bought one when he was at a homebrew festival earlier this year. He got it because he wanted to see if his club would share it but many of the guys weren't interested in canning. They make both the manual and automated versions and I think it's cool that we continue to have new options available to us.
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I have a few friends that would be willing to share the cost to do this if it were $600. (We like gadgets)

Please correct me if I am wrong but the amazon link appears to be a different can sealer than the one in the video.

The model 225 in the video only seals 12oz cans and is $1489

https://wellscan.ca/product/aa-225a-hom ... ng-sealer/

They have a new model that seals 12 + 16oz cans that is over 1600 bucks

https://wellscan.ca/product/all-america ... ng-sealer/

I hope I am wrong because 4 of us would kick in 150 each for a $600 unit but $1600 is out of our league.

Side note - my wife has been buying wine in small cans. I would assume one could can wine just like you would beer with this contraption.
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LouieMacGoo wrote:
BlackDuck wrote:Like Mashani said...seems a bit cost prohibitive. BUT....it is pretty cool!!!
I agree Chris but I like that the cost is coming down and may actually be a viable option for homebrewers at some point. Also I could see a small brew pub getting one of these and offering 16, 32, and 64 oz cans of brew instead or growlers. This would be a cheap way for them to get into it as opposed to some of the more expensive options.
I've seen bars where they fill crowlers (a portmanteau of can+growler). So that's already happening.
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Its always exciting go see new products available to us. I wouldnt be interested in canning at this time over bottling a batch of beer but still nice to see tbe possibilities.
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Cool. Always good to know what's out there.
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bpgreen wrote:
I've seen bars where they fill crowlers (a portmanteau of can+growler). So that's already happening.
One of our beer distributors started filling crowlers and now have a page on their website with what's on tap

http://jrsbeer.com/crowlers/

I think these canning machines are soooo cool.
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We have several local places getting into crowlers. The sharing idea is where my mind went too. That, and canning wort for starters.


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A proper process to ensure that the beer lasts in the can is to purge the can with CO2, fill it to the brim (no foam), and seal it. A proper Crowler system does this. Just putting carbonated beer in a can won't make it last very long.
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