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Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:24 pm
by madman960
Thanks. I may try one or both of these.

Bill

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:25 pm
by madman960
Would toasting half a pound or more of 2 row help this beer in any way?

Bill

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:14 pm
by jimjohson
madman960 wrote:I have enough to try both ways. Bittering is the longer boil?

Bill

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Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:35 pm
by madman960
Thanks for clarifying.

Bill

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:10 am
by mashani
If you do it both ways, for the #2 - the "British" version - dry hopping some EKG would be nice too.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:48 pm
by madman960
Went back to the LBS today. Today is their last day of operation. I got a bunch more hops and 2 pounds of Caramel 40L.

Hops are:
Warrior 15.7% (2 oz)
US Northern Brewer 10.3% (2 oz)
US Tettnang 4.6% (2 oz)
US Hallertau 4.7% (1 oz) So 3 oz on hand

The LBS said I can buy their grain mill next week once they start selling off fixtures. Works well. I ground 8 pounds in about 10 min by hand.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:59 pm
by John Sand
It's a shame they are closing, but an good opportunity for you.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:58 pm
by madman960
Wish they were staying open. The closest is still an hour away. This was an hour also but an easier route.

Might brew something completely different now that I have all these hop choices. Not entirely sure what my options are. Going to look up grain hop and yeast profiles to see what I can come up with.

Bill

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:17 am
by mashani
What kind of yeast do you have? You can make a nice steam beer with 2-row, C-40, and Northern Brewer.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:25 am
by madman960
I have 6 packs US-05.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:37 am
by jimjohson
well your suppost to use a lager yeast i.e. s-23 or better Wyeast 2112. and ferment at a low ale temps., say 63f. don't know about the 05, but i've read you can use nottingham at lower than usual temps to get that faux lagerish taste, which is what your after with a steam beer.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:40 am
by jimjohson
jimjohson wrote:well your supposed to use a lager yeast i.e. s-23, or better Wyeast 2112 and ferment at a low ale temps. (say 63f) don't know about the 05, but i've read you can use nottingham at lower than usual temps to get that faux lagerish taste, which is what your after with a steam beer.

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:27 am
by madman960
Thinking someting like:

4# 2 row
12 oz Caramel 40L
8 oz cara-pils
60 min mash at 152-154
.25 oz Warrior 60 min
.25 oz Hallertau @ 30 20 10 and FO
US-05
3.5 gallon boil
2.5 Gallon batch

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:43 pm
by madman960
Playing with Brewers friend I should swap the warrior for NB and change the 60 min addition to a 30 min addition for 33.22 IBUs, 1.057 OG, 1.014 FG and SRM of 9.67. According to an IBU chart I found this should be a balanced to a slightly hoppy beer. At 60 min with NB IBU numbers change to 38.14.

If I put the warrior in at 25 min everything stays the same but IBUs change to 39.41. This makes the beer slightly hoppy to extra hoppy. At 60 min with Warrior IBU numbers change to 49.30.

Chart is in post 10 in the link:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/commerc ... us-100116/

Bill

Re: What can I make with these ingredients?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:49 pm
by jimjohson
imo, you only need 4 oz cara pils for an lbk/lbc sized batch. but doing it @ 8oz cara pils. using beersmith i get OG 1.049, FG 1.009, IBU 39.1(Warrior @ 60 min boil) 33.1(Warrior @ 30 min boil), SRM 8.6, ABV 5.2%. it's set for my equipment profile as i don't know what you cook with and will probably explain the differences in our numbers. as it recommends me to start with 3.88 gal..