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Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:46 pm
by Inkleg
Thanks Whamo, I've always been one to speak what others are thinking. ;)

Though one think that hasn't been mentioned. 1 gallon? 3? 5? 10? Then process and numbers should be all the same, just more or less depending on batch size. But even one gallon of marinade is too much when your making beer.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:34 pm
by FedoraDave
I believe it was a 5-gallon batch. And I haven't heard whether any of the other bottles had problems.

Also, this isn't the first time these guys have brewed. So I'm kinda stumped.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:29 pm
by Inkleg
Notes man, what do their notes say! They are keeping notes, right?

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:42 pm
by FedoraDave
Dunno. Am I my brew-brother's keeper?

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:55 pm
by Inkleg
You should at least be leading by example, Sensei.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:02 pm
by Yankeedag
That might explain why I individually bottle prime. But hey, It works for me, you do what works for you. :razz:

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:57 am
by Gymrat
Yankeedag wrote:That might explain why I individually bottle prime. But hey, It works for me, you do what works for you. :razz:
That absolutely is far more uniform. I just hated it with 50 bottles. Which is why I switched to batch priming. When I forgot to stir I would get wildly inconsistent carbonation in my bottles.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:59 am
by ScrewyBrewer
I stir the beer too, after adding the priming sugar solution to it, but I always questioned the need to stir it again as I bottle. After mixing a cupful of sugar solution, into 5 gallons of beer that is mostly water with some alcohol, will the sugar really fall out of suspension? When cold crashing beer, to get yeast and hop particles to settle out, it takes at least a day or more at 38F for anything to happen. I am not questioning anyone else's experiences with batch priming, but after giving this some thought I have to wonder, is stirring again during bottling really necessary?

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:29 pm
by Gymrat
ScrewyBrewer wrote:I stir the beer too, after adding the priming sugar solution to it, but I always questioned the need to stir it again as I bottle. After mixing a cupful of sugar solution, into 5 gallons of beer that is mostly water with some alcohol, will the sugar really fall out of suspension? When cold crashing beer, to get yeast and hop particles to settle out, it takes at least a day or more at 38F for anything to happen. I am not questioning anyone else's experiences with batch priming, but after giving this some thought I have to wonder, is stirring again during bottling really necessary?
I always stirred just once after my bottling bucket was filled. Except when I forgot. That happened to me twice and I ended up with some over carbonated bottles and some bottles that didn't seem to be carbonated at all. I have had other brewers in the club tell me they have had similar experiences. The action of filling the bucket alone isn't enough to mix thoroughly.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:46 pm
by FedoraDave
Gymrat wrote:
ScrewyBrewer wrote:I stir the beer too, after adding the priming sugar solution to it, but I always questioned the need to stir it again as I bottle. After mixing a cupful of sugar solution, into 5 gallons of beer that is mostly water with some alcohol, will the sugar really fall out of suspension? When cold crashing beer, to get yeast and hop particles to settle out, it takes at least a day or more at 38F for anything to happen. I am not questioning anyone else's experiences with batch priming, but after giving this some thought I have to wonder, is stirring again during bottling really necessary?
I always stirred just once after my bottling bucket was filled. Except when I forgot. That happened to me twice and I ended up with some over carbonated bottles and some bottles that didn't seem to be carbonated at all. I have had other brewers in the club tell me they have had similar experiences. The action of filling the bucket alone isn't enough to mix thoroughly.
I found this to be true, also. After a couple of inconsistently carbed batches, I adopted my current technique of adding the priming sugar mixture when the bucket is half full, and then stirring when it's finished racking. I can't remember any inconsistently carbed batches after doing this.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:49 pm
by FedoraDave
Inkleg wrote:You should at least be leading by example, Sensei.
I did mention to my SIL that it would be neat to get together with his friends and brew a batch together. The logistics are a bit of a problem, though, as they all live in the city, and I'm in the 'burbs. And it wouldn't just be brew day; we'd have to co-ordinate a bottling day also.

Still, if I fed them all, they might make the trip up here....

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:39 pm
by Inkleg
I hear ya on that Dave. I have a friend who is learning to brew. We met at another friends house a week ago for her first brew day. The beer is sitting in the basement of the brew house and we are meeting back up on the 16th to bottle. It's an hour trip for me and a 5 hour trip for the brewer. But other friends show, bring food and hang out. A good time is had by all and beer is involved. That's a win-win in my book.

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:01 pm
by FedoraDave
I have no problem feeding them, if they came to Fedora Brauhaus for the experience. Although, I think one of them is a *gasp*! vegetarian. :o

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:13 pm
by Gymrat
FedoraDave wrote:I have no problem feeding them, if they came to Fedora Brauhaus for the experience. Although, I think one of them is a *gasp*! vegetarian. :o
Can I come over and eat the meat he doesn't want?

Re: They killed the yeast

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:56 pm
by FedoraDave
Gymrat wrote:
FedoraDave wrote:I have no problem feeding them, if they came to Fedora Brauhaus for the experience. Although, I think one of them is a *gasp*! vegetarian. :o
Can I come over and eat the meat he doesn't want?
Sure. If I barbecue some ribs, I always make sure to make a lot. If you come to my house for grilled/BBQ'd meat and you leave hungry, it's your own fault.