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Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:47 am
by mashani
I'd put the black one in a corner for a while too, it will probably get better. That DuPont "Monks Stout" I picked up was a challenging beer. I didn't hate it, but it was like a dry irish stout except *way more dry* - so dry that the roasted grains came across almost like charcoal and smoke. And some bubble gum on top.

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:15 am
by monsteroyd
Yep it is in storage for maybe next fall. I have enough other saisons.

I am thinking of trying an experiment with US-05 at 75F The package says that is in range, and that is where the fermentation chamber is set. I looked up Blonde Ale in BeerSmith, and it works great with the smashes. I thought I would duplicate the Saaz Saison, only with us-05 yeast.

Of course, I am doing another Palisade SMaSH to go with the blonde ale.

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:34 am
by BeerRust
monsteroyd wrote:Yep it is in storage for maybe next fall. I have enough other saisons.

I am thinking of trying an experiment with US-05 at 75F The package says that is in range, and that is where the fermentation chamber is set. I looked up Blonde Ale in BeerSmith, and it works great with the smashes. I thought I would duplicate the Saaz Saison, only with us-05 yeast.

Of course, I am doing another Palisade SMaSH to go with the blonde ale.

Monty
What are you using with it? I have used 05 several times, it works fast after the initial 24 hours, than really takes off with activity.

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:54 pm
by monsteroyd
This would be just a smash with 2.5 lbs of light dme and saaz for 15 minutes or so. Then US-05.


Recipe: SS3i Saaz Ale
Brewer: Monty
Asst:
Style: Blonde Ale
Type: Extract

Brewed: 10 Feb 2014
Bottle: 03 Mar 2014
Drink: 31 Mar 2014

Batch Size: 2.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Measured OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated FG: 1.011 SG
Measured FG: 1.004 SG
Estimated ABV: 5.3 %
Measured ABV: 6.3 %
Boil Time: 25 Minutes
Color: 6.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 20.5 IBUs

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Saaz [2.90 %] - First Wort 25.0 min Hop 1 20.5 IBUs
1 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 2 38.1 %
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 11.0 mins) Fining 3 -
2.00 Items Fermcap-S (Boil 11.0 mins) Other 4 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 0.1 mins) Other 5 -
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 6 -
1 lbs 8.0 oz Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 7 57.1 %
2.0 oz Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 8 4.8 %

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:52 pm
by BeerRust
monsteroyd wrote:This would be just a smash with 2.5 lbs of light dme and saaz for 15 minutes or so. Then US-05.


Recipe: SS3i Saaz Ale
Brewer: Monty
Asst:
Style: Blonde Ale
Type: Extract

Brewed: 10 Feb 2014
Bottle: 03 Mar 2014
Drink: 31 Mar 2014

Batch Size: 2.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Measured OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated FG: 1.011 SG
Measured FG: 1.004 SG
Estimated ABV: 5.3 %
Measured ABV: 6.3 %
Boil Time: 25 Minutes
Color: 6.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 20.5 IBUs

Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Saaz [2.90 %] - First Wort 25.0 min Hop 1 20.5 IBUs
1 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 2 38.1 %
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 11.0 mins) Fining 3 -
2.00 Items Fermcap-S (Boil 11.0 mins) Other 4 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 0.1 mins) Other 5 -
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 6 -
1 lbs 8.0 oz Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 7 57.1 %
2.0 oz Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 8 4.8 %

Monty
I think your IBUs will actually come in lower, you said 15 mins for Saaz, but your calculations call for 25 min. It may come in slightly lower

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:07 pm
by monsteroyd
Ok last lbk in the Fermentator, then a full 81L of beer!

I'm messing with Beersmith, and I think this is my final Saison of the second set.


Recipe: Simple Saison 3i Sorachi Red Eye Rye
Brewer: Monty
Asst:
Style: Saison
Type: Extract

Brewed: 10 Feb 2014
Bottle: 03 Mar 2014
Drink: 31 Mar 2014

Batch Size: 2.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.041 SG
Measured OG: 1.046 SG
Estimated FG: 1.003 SG
Measured FG: 1.002 SG
Estimated ABV: 5.1 %
Measured ABV: 5.8 %
Boil Time: 11 Minutes
Color: 12.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 22.9 IBUs

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1 lbs Carared (Weyermann) (24.0 SRM) Grain 1 29.6 %
0.50 oz Sorachi Ace [11.90 %] - First Wort 11.0 Hop 2 22.9 IBUs
1 lbs Amber Dry Extract (12.5 SRM) Dry Extract 3 29.6 %
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 11.0 mins) Fining 4 -
2.00 Items Fermcap-S (Boil 11.0 mins) Other 5 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 0.0 mins) Other 6 -
1.0 pkg Belle Saison (Lallemand #) Yeast 7 -
12.0 oz Rye Liquid Extract (9.0 SRM) Extract 8 22.2 %
8.0 oz Munich Liquid Extract (12.5 SRM) Extract 9 14.8 %
2.0 oz Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 10 3.7 %

I want to taste the rye. Please comments always welcome.

Thanks
Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:43 pm
by BeerRust
Look what I got!
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Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:54 pm
by monsteroyd
HaHa Be careful. I really like that yeast. Makes great tasting beer and is really easy to use. Watch your OG, cause it ain't nothing to make some of that there high gravity beer with this. I mean a 1.048 will get you a 5% beer easy.

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:58 pm
by monsteroyd
OK Just did the Sorachi Red Eye Rye Saison. (snowed in so no basil, ;()

Will edit this with OG: 1.046

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:43 am
by mashani
BeerRust wrote:Look what I got!
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My precioussssss.

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:50 am
by mashani
monsteroyd wrote:OK Just did the Sorachi Red Eye Rye Saison. (snowed in so no basil, ;()

Will edit this with OG

Monty
Sorry, I didn't see you asked about the rye.

If the rye malt extract you used was Briess stuff, next time I'd just use it as 100% or close to 100% of the bill if you really want to really taste the rye. It's 70% 2 row, 20% rye, 10% 20L crystal (I think). It does taste nice with Sorachi hops too.

If you are willing to do a partial mash of just a little bit of 2-row and rye malt (or a full BIAB mash), you can throw in some flaked rye. That kicks up the rye flavor.

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:52 am
by monsteroyd
Yep it was Briess. Ok, so now I know. Well it will have a little rye in it. I used 1 lb of light DME, 12 oz of rye and 8 oz of munich. And the steep of 1 lb of Carared. Well maybe it will be a bit red-ish.

Thanks for the info for next time.

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:19 pm
by mashani
It should taste good regardless :)

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:56 pm
by monsteroyd
Hey I hope so. Actually I need to bottle the first of the second set, so that will free up a LBK for another try at the rye saison. This time a SMaDH, all rye liquid malt (since it is already diluted) and sorachi and citra hops. 1/3 oz each for 11 minutes.

That should be tasty. And I think use up the last of my Belle Saison yeast.

Monty

Re: Simple Saison

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:23 pm
by monsteroyd
For those who like pron. Sorry its out of focus, but I think you get the idea.

When bottled this will be 81 liters of various Saisons: :banana:
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Monty