Re: I deserve a homebrew because....
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:07 pm
@Beer Lord, @John Sand:
This first video is in Russian, just skip forward to about 1:45 in and watch for a while and it will show you what fast classic style looks like as a "whole", you will see them start with the standard technique (except they are running) and then switch to a double pole once they get up to speed. Nordic Track simulates only the style these guys use to start and to climb hills (see about 3 minutes in), using it on the flats is not fast enough, double polling or double polling with kicks is much faster on flats and when going down. They are basically running as fast as they can up the hills using it - I run up hills like that too when I'm skiing classic style - place I go around here has a 1/2 mile hill I run up like that - cranks the heart rate right up there really quick, almost instantly it no longer feels cold outside). These guys are going about as fast as you can go classic style. Try to get your legs moving that fast on the Nordic track, and you'll burn a hella lot of calories I bet.
The ones below are in English and show some of the various skate/freestyle techniques and a kick double pole for classic style.
This is the classic kick double pole. It's not as killer on you to do this as the full double pole technique that you see them doing most of the time in the video above and nearly as fast when done right. There are other ways of doing this too. This is my normal way of cruising along on classic skis when I'm not hill climbing. I'll do full double pole on slight downhill sections, and will tuck and just use step turns on big downhills (they do that in the Russian video above).
This one shows the hill climbing "gear" of skate style skiing:
This one shows what amounts to "high gear" in skate. At around 1 minute in you can get a sense of how fast they are moving. It's fast.
The slowmo bits will show you just how much the core is involved in the polling and in initiating the weight transfer between skiis.
The one below is the skate technique I use most of the time myself, which is similar to the above except with 2 kicks per double pole. For whatever reason this seems more natural a motion to me then the above which I find much more tricky to pull off without falling on my face at some point. Watch they guy they put in the shaded box. If you look at some of the other people they are using the technique in the above video with a pole for every kick. As you can see this way isn't really slower, it's just different, it's a matter of what seems comfortable to you.
This first video is in Russian, just skip forward to about 1:45 in and watch for a while and it will show you what fast classic style looks like as a "whole", you will see them start with the standard technique (except they are running) and then switch to a double pole once they get up to speed. Nordic Track simulates only the style these guys use to start and to climb hills (see about 3 minutes in), using it on the flats is not fast enough, double polling or double polling with kicks is much faster on flats and when going down. They are basically running as fast as they can up the hills using it - I run up hills like that too when I'm skiing classic style - place I go around here has a 1/2 mile hill I run up like that - cranks the heart rate right up there really quick, almost instantly it no longer feels cold outside). These guys are going about as fast as you can go classic style. Try to get your legs moving that fast on the Nordic track, and you'll burn a hella lot of calories I bet.
The ones below are in English and show some of the various skate/freestyle techniques and a kick double pole for classic style.
This is the classic kick double pole. It's not as killer on you to do this as the full double pole technique that you see them doing most of the time in the video above and nearly as fast when done right. There are other ways of doing this too. This is my normal way of cruising along on classic skis when I'm not hill climbing. I'll do full double pole on slight downhill sections, and will tuck and just use step turns on big downhills (they do that in the Russian video above).
This one shows the hill climbing "gear" of skate style skiing:
This one shows what amounts to "high gear" in skate. At around 1 minute in you can get a sense of how fast they are moving. It's fast.
The slowmo bits will show you just how much the core is involved in the polling and in initiating the weight transfer between skiis.
The one below is the skate technique I use most of the time myself, which is similar to the above except with 2 kicks per double pole. For whatever reason this seems more natural a motion to me then the above which I find much more tricky to pull off without falling on my face at some point. Watch they guy they put in the shaded box. If you look at some of the other people they are using the technique in the above video with a pole for every kick. As you can see this way isn't really slower, it's just different, it's a matter of what seems comfortable to you.