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Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:59 pm
by Kealia
Welcome. Sorry to hear about the priming sugar on this batch, but you've gotten good advice so far.

I was THIS close to being a "49er" back in my college days. But that is a LONG story......
:welcome:

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:54 pm
by Red Beerd
Ok, vent one more time...? Thoughts..?

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:44 am
by Dawg LB Steve
Welcome to the Borg!!! Looks like these guys got you covered!
:cheers:

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:01 am
by Kealia
It really is sort of a guessing game right now. If it were me, I'd vent a couple, but not all - just to make sure that if you over vent you don't do the whole batch.
if you do this, though - keep a close check on the other bottles and vent if necessary.

Sorry I can't be of more help - this is more art than science at this point.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:21 am
by Red Beerd
Kealia wrote:It really is sort of a guessing game right now. If it were me, I'd vent a couple, but not all - just to make sure that if you over vent you don't do the whole batch.
if you do this, though - keep a close check on the other bottles and vent if necessary.

Sorry I can't be of more help - this is more art than science at this point.
I decided to vent again last night as the bottles were so firm. This morning they are firm again. I think now I'll leave them a couple of days and open one and taste. That was the 3rd venting since bottling....

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:28 pm
by Inkleg
When I was bottling I would line a cardboard beer box with a trash bag and put my carbing bottles in it and fold the top of the bag over the bottles. That way if one went off the mess was contained making clean up much easier. A cooler works well too.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:34 pm
by bpgreen
Those PET bottles can take a lot of pressure before they burst. Once you decide to stop venting, watch the tootles closely. If they start to bulge, vent again.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:55 pm
by Red Beerd
bpgreen wrote:Those PET bottles can take a lot of pressure before they burst. Once you decide to stop venting, watch the tootles closely. If they start to bulge, vent again.
Ok will do thank you. What is a tootle..?

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:03 pm
by Kealia
That would be a typo :D

Here's the other thing: If you put them in the fridge it doesn't *kill* the yeast, but it does put them to sleep so they stop carbing.
If you do that and taste it to find that it is too sweet, you can put them back at room temp to carb a bit more.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:17 pm
by Red Beerd
Kealia wrote:That would be a typo :D

Here's the other thing: If you put them in the fridge it doesn't *kill* the yeast, but it does put them to sleep so they stop carbing.
If you do that and taste it to find that it is too sweet, you can put them back at room temp to carb a bit more.
I might taste one tonight so see how it is....

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:10 pm
by bpgreen
Red Beerd wrote:
bpgreen wrote:Those PET bottles can take a lot of pressure before they burst. Once you decide to stop venting, watch the tootles closely. If they start to bulge, vent again.
Ok will do thank you. What is a tootle..?
That started out as bottle, but somehow didn't end that way.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:43 am
by Red Beerd
bpgreen wrote:
Red Beerd wrote:
bpgreen wrote:Those PET bottles can take a lot of pressure before they burst. Once you decide to stop venting, watch the tootles closely. If they start to bulge, vent again.
Ok will do thank you. What is a tootle..?
That started out as bottle, but somehow didn't end that way.
Haha. I wasn't sure if that's what it meant or some term for part of a bottle like the bottom etc! So many terms I'm learning from the forum right now I was confused.... Sorry I should have caught that.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:37 pm
by Red Beerd
Ok so lets say I want to use a priming solution to my second batch (which is in the fermentor now)... Do I just open the lid and carefully mix it in? Then leave it for 1/2 an hour before bottling? But if I take the top off the fermentor won't that risk contamination...? Please advise.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:54 pm
by mashani
Everytime you do anything, open your fermenter, siphon to another secondary vessel (bottling bucket, secondary fermenter), you do risk contamination.

How high that risk is depends on how well you sanitize everything and also your environment.

IE in my environment, I take off the lid, I have a good chance of a Brett C. infection because it lives in my house, and it doesn't matter how well I sanitize things because it "falls in" from the air into any opening if the opening is opened long enough. The "good" news is I actually like Brett C. beer.

Still I try to avoid it mostly, so these days I tend to just bottle directly from the primary and prime my bottles with dominos dots instead of batch priming because it is the least problematic and fastest way for me to do it.

But most folks don't have as big of an issue as I do like that and normally as long as you are careful it's not a big issue.

As far as mixing it in if you are batch priming, what you describe is OK if your careful, but you might mix up the trub back into suspension and be bottling cloudy trubby beer, and if you are being too careful while stirring to try to avoid this, you might not get equal distribution of the solution (some bottles might still end up with more sugar then others).

The best way is to have a second bucket or fermenter with a spigot, put your priming solution into that bucket, and then siphon your beer into it. That will fully integrate the priming solution into the wort - it gets mixed in continuously while the siphoning is happening.

Re: Hello from Long Beach CA

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:46 pm
by Red Beerd
Well my fermentor is in the garage so I'm not sure how comfortable I am with popping the lid in that environment. I'll probably go with your sugar cube recommendation and bottle prime the current batch.