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Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:09 pm
by Kealia
Yeah, the IBUs show high on the recipe but it never really tastes bitter like you would think it would. Just a damn good session ale. Sorry to hear you might have to brew another 5 gallons of this. Oh, the problems we have!
I'm sure it's going to be good, regardless of the FG. I think mine could use some more aroma, so I may dry hop later, too. We'll see after I get to feeling 100% and have a few more.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:24 pm
by Beer-lord
Sorry, your dead wrong, I've started brewing all my recipes as 6 gallons, not 5.
So much is lost with hops funk and all the yeast trub that I just find it better to brew an extra gallon. Still don't get 5 in the keg though.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:23 pm
by Kealia
Since I was dry hopping the Summer Ale in the keg I decided to hit the Levitation, too. It wasn't as strong in the aroma department as I wanted and I'm guessing that the gelatin is to blame here, too.
I dropped in 1/2oz of Amarillo and 1oz Simcoe in a nylon bag with a shotglass since the Summer Ale got the glass marbles. We'll see what difference a few days of this makes this weekend.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:53 pm
by Beer-lord
My Levitation has only be on gas 2 days but I decided to taste it tonite just to see where it's headed. It's rather un-eventful. I'm going to wait until Friday and see how it goes then likely dry hop in the keg.I"m thinking of 1 oz Amarillo and 1/2 Simcoe....the opposite of what you used.
So, Ron and Jeff, the first time you made this one (with or without the gelatin) what type of aroma did it have? I taste a slight roasted flavor. Could the crystal 75 and 150 and the slight amount of black malt do that? I have a Stone Levitation here to try a side by side but the color is dead on. I can't believe the gelatin could have done much in 36 hours. I guess I will have to make this again and leave it be. I know it's still early and young but I was expecting more from this. So far, I don't get 60 + IBU's from this.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:53 pm
by Kealia
I can't recall if we used the same recipe of if they were slightly different. Maybe yours was BYO and mine was from CYBI?
In any case, when I brewed it before it had a nice citrusy/flowery aroma but I don't recall getting anything roasted in the taste. I tend to think of roasted/toasted as the same thing and what I taste in porters so that's why I say that. I pick up a bit of caramel sweetness and then some great hop flavor - in my previous batch.
This time around it is a bit muted and I blame the gelatin for that, too. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
And I never got 60 IBUs from Levitation (the original or the clone) and that's what made it a great session beer to me. It had a lot of flavor but not a lot of bitterness. I'm curious to see what your side by side yields.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:41 pm
by Inkleg
My recipe says 1oz of Black Patent and 50 IBUs. I don't think I get 50, but I haven't had a glass tonight and think the Pliny may have stunted my IBUer.
No roast here, just a nice Amber Ale that smells of hops.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:44 pm
by Beer-lord
Tried another taste tonite and I didn't get the same roast notes. I do taste a slight yeast flavor but I'm not a huge fan of 04 so maybe that's it. I'm definitely going to dry hop this with 1 oz of Amarillo and 1/2 of Simcoe tomorrow night. I'm drinking some of this on Sunday so almost 4 days with dry hops is going to be enough.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:06 pm
by Kealia
Mine is 1oz Black Patent Malt and 63.1 IBUS, but it doesn't taste that way from a bitter standpoint - which is a good thing for this beer IMO.
Going to try another one tonight. I just keg-hopped yesterday so I'm going to try one each night to see how long it takes to have an impact.
Hmmm, keg-hopped....can I Trademark that, too?
Damn, can't find a superscript code that works here
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Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:39 pm
by Inkleg
Kealia wrote:Hmmm, keg-hopped....can I Trademark that, too?
Yes, as long as I get credit for having done it here first.
Belas IPA dry hopped in the keg on 5-2-13
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Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:58 pm
by Kealia
Ah, you DID it first but I cam up with the catch-phrase!
Tell you what, every time somebody says it we'll charge them a quarter. You get $.10 and I get $.15...deal?
I pulled a pint tonight and can already smell a faint difference. Nice.
What's really interesting is that my crystal clear beer is now murky
I'm guessing it will settle a bit over the next few days but honestly at this point I don't care. Like Paul said, I'll trade clarity for a better beer.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:19 pm
by Beer-lord
I'll trade clarity for a better beer.
OK, I get .25 every time someone says the above.
How much did you end up keg-hopping (I owe you now) the Levitation?
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:27 pm
by Kealia
Ah, it's a wash! We're even now.
I used 1/2oz of Amarillo and 1oz Simcoe.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:20 pm
by Beer-lord
OK, the deed is done. 1 oz Amarillo, 1/2 Simcoe in the keg.
I tasted it before keg-hopping (.15 more to Ron and .10 to Jeff) and it's just blah. Sorta like my Chinook IPA and my Maris Otter SMaSH was. Not sure why. I can only say that it lacks lots of bitterness and aroma.
To those I sent a bottle to, my apologies for such a blah beer. Maybe you can buy a hoppy beer and blend them.
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Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:38 pm
by Inkleg
Kealia wrote:Ah, you DID it first but I cam up with the catch-phrase!
Tell you what, every time somebody says it we'll charge them a quarter. You get $.10 and I get $.15...deal?
Works for me Ron.
Kealia wrote:I pulled a pint tonight and can already smell a faint difference. Nice.
What's really interesting is that my crystal clear beer is now murky
I'm guessing it will settle a bit over the next few days but honestly at this point I don't care. Like Paul said, I'll trade clarity for a better beer.
Yes It will clear. If you leave it alone long enough and stop perving.
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I think mine cleared within a week. I poured a glass at 4 days, cloudy and next a week later, clear.
Just finished another glass of Belas. Crystal clear and still a damn good IPA.
Re: Stone Levitation clone question
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:28 pm
by Kealia
Inkleg wrote:Kealia wrote:Yes It will clear. If you leave it alone long enough and stop perving.
Yeah, 'cuz that's gonna happen!
Besides, I'm drinking, not perving and that makes it different
I've got 5 gallons of this and no plans for anybody to come over anytime soon so I have plenty on hand to keep tasting. I think it will be interesting to see it changing daily.