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Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:49 pm
by BlackDuck
I wonder if the "something" your getting are esters coming from the lager yeast? So are you happy with the overall results?

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:32 pm
by jimjohson
I think it is esters, but not overpowering, predominating is the cluster...I really think it's a good example of the style, and I like it. Turns out third time is a charm. I'm going to let 'em finish the full 4 week conditioning. Then set some in the fridge to cold condition till the 4th of July cook out.(pull 'em out and share 'em around while the charcoal is getting hot)
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considering how the last 3 have gone I think we need to start researching styles so we have suggestions for the next RCE(at this point I'll be honestly surprised if we aren't paired :lol: )

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:15 pm
by BlackDuck
Here's my first pour. It's only been in the bottle two weeks and about 36 hours in the fridge, so I'm a little early. But I couldn't wait any longer. Jim, I think we've done it again. I like this beer. It's just a regular old beer. Kind of like a BMC, only with some grain and hop flavor to it. Perfect summer drinker. It's a little hazy, but I'm sure after it lagers for a few weeks in the fridge, this will end up pouring really clear.
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Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:56 pm
by jimjohson
FWIW, Mine were pouring clear in 4 weeks. So no heavy esters from warm fermenting with 34/70?

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:14 pm
by BlackDuck
Did you use only 34/70? I used 1 pack of 34/70 and 1 pack of S-05 in mine. I'm not getting any fruity esters at all in mine.

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:45 pm
by jimjohson
No, I used S-23 and S-33 and didn't lager. Makes a nice little ale. I think we've made, at the least, a right fair attempt at the style. I plan on making this a 2.5g recipe so I can keep a supply on hand(I got coolers that ain't doin' nothin')

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:31 pm
by BlackDuck
Duh....when you wrote "So no heavy esters from warm fermenting with 34/70?" I did not read that as I question. I read it as a statemet that you didn't get any esters from the 34/70. Sorry about that.

I really haven't started to lager mine yet as it still needs a few more days to carb up, so I think it should really be good in a few weeks. I think this one might make it into the summer beer rotation.

I think you're right that is a real nice attempt at the style. And you've titled it well because....Three's A Charm my friend!!!

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:23 am
by jimjohson
BlackDuck wrote:
I really haven't started to lager mine yet as it still needs a few more days to carb up, so I think it should really be good in a few weeks. I think this one might make it into the summer beer rotation.

I'm asking b/c I'm going to be doing a Steam Beer this week, and was considering using 34/70. 'Cause I ain't going to order the Cali lager yeast.

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:33 am
by BlackDuck
I think you should be good to go then. I kept the fermentation temps in the low 60's the entire time. According to Fermentis, the temp range for 34/70 is 46.2 - 71.6 (ideally 53.6 - 59). So even in the low 60's your well in it's temp range.

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:07 pm
by jimjohson
thanks!

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:46 pm
by BlackDuck
Check out how crystal clear these bad boys are now.
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Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:11 pm
by Dawg LB Steve
WOW is that clear! Was that a faux lager method? I'm too lazy right now to read back thru the posts.

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:40 pm
by BlackDuck
Mine was brewed with both S-05 and W-34/70 and controlled to 65 degrees during fermentation.


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Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:53 pm
by Dawg LB Steve
Pitched one packet of each?

Re: 2015 RCE - BlackDuck and JJ!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:57 pm
by BlackDuck
Yes sir.