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Save your money. This comes from Abita Brewing in LA.

The Fall Fest, I assumed was their shot at an Octoberfest. It tasted like someone took a good Octoberfest beer and cut it with Bud Light. No malty goodness. No head. Ick.

The Turbodog claimed it was a darker brew with caramel, chocolate and roasted malt overtones. Once again, it tasted like someone took a 1554 and mixed it with Bud Light. It has no body, limited head and was unsatisfying at best.

When Abita opened long ago, we were happy with their beers but that was before we knew better. They are average at best, craft beer made for the common beer drinker.
Some of their seasonals are pretty good. They did a decent IPA seasonal recently and have a few others coming out that sound good. But, I knew some of the assistant brewers and many want to go crazy but the bosses won't let them.
I never liked either of the beers you mention. They're not bad, just not good nor my type of beer.

I'm glad that someone who "knows" Abita confirms my findings.

You could definitely pass this off to non-brewers as "craft beer" but for me, not so much.