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Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:23 am
by Chuck N
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:40 am
by John Sand
He's back! I had a streak of infected batches and beat it too. Welcome to good beer health.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:37 pm
by berryman
Good deal Chuck, glad things cleaned up for you. I've been busy cleaning all of my brewing equipment too, because in a few weeks I'm going to fill all my fermenters with brew.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:49 am
by FedoraDave
Good news, Chuck! Congrats on getting back on board.
I recently chucked one of my LBKs because I suspected it had micro-scratches and was infected. I've had two gusher batches I can trace to that LBK, and that's enough for me. Now I need to ramp up production and get the pipeline robust and healthy before spring arrives.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:28 am
by Tabasco
Great news! I pour a solution of star san into a spray bottle ... and just spray the inside of the bottle, roll around and pour the little bit out. I save a ton on starsan. It works just as good.
That's also how I sanitize the insides of my fermenter pales. Just spray the inside surfaces, then gently wipe the starsan the falls to the bottom around with a starsan sprayed paper towel ... never had an infection, and a small container of starsan lasts FOREVER.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:47 am
by Chuck N
I made up a solution of an ounce of Star San in four gallons of water (a little over-kill but I'm not going to worry about that) in my bottling bucket. Then I dunked as many bottles in the bucket holding them under until they filed with solution. Once the bucket was full I took the bottles out in the order that I put them in, drained them and set them in my tree. Then I putt the caps into a bowl and filled that with solution and set it off to the side until needed. I put the dis-assembled end of my bottling wand into a glass and filled that with solution. Then I put my spoon, bottling wand stem and auto-siphon into the bucket - running solution through the auto-siphon - and let all that soak while I boiled my sugar solution.
I think that in dunking the bottles in the solution I sanitized the two things that may have been causing a lot of my problems: My hands.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:49 am
by RickBeer
For those that care (probably no one), I've done the math on figuring out cost.
If you buy a quart of StarSan at the price of $15.99, it works out to 10 cents per gallon of solution.
That's less than 1/2 the cost of Easy Clean / One Step. I used a pound of One Step over about 20 batches, figure a gallon for bottling and a gallon for brewing, so that's 40 gallons or 10 cents per gallon.
The big differences are that StarSan lasts for weeks (not a week sealed like One Step) and that StarSan takes a lot less to do the job and does it quicker.
I don't like how the bottle foams over the top when filling, it makes more of a mess. But it is nice having a spray bottle of it.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:28 pm
by Chuck N
Learned a new trick today.
Maybe this is one of those "DUH" moments but the last bottling I did I used Star San for the first time. I dunked my bottles in to a bucket of solution, let them sit a minute or two and then poured the solution out of the bottles and back into the bucket. Well the foam (bubbles) in the bottles was really a PITA as I had to over flow each bottle at filling to get the foam out of the bottles. This time I did the same thing except when I poured the solution out of the bottles I did it slowly - like I was pouring a beer without disturbing the trub - and the foam (bubbles) is non-existent.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:55 pm
by RickBeer
I use the Vinator and find that there's foam left even if they've been sitting on the bottle tree for 15 minutes. I agree it's annoying, but I'm not dunking 50 bottles.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:49 pm
by berryman
This is one reason I usually use one-step on bottles. I do like starsan a lot though and use it on almost everything. I was told at My LHBS the other day that there is something a lot like starsan out there but with less foaming, Do any of you know what that might be? When I go back I'll check into it.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:09 pm
by Chuck N
RickBeer wrote:I use the Vinator and find that there's foam left even if they've been sitting on the bottle tree for 15 minutes. I agree it's annoying, but I'm not dunking 50 bottles.
Yeah, I can see your point there. But with the troubles I've been having I decided to go "all in" and sanitize everything in sight. With dunking the bottles I get the added bonus of sanitizing my hands at the same time.
Re: Star San To The RESCUE!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:37 pm
by rickbray66
For bottling, a Vinator is one of those items you will really wish you had gotten sooner. If you've got a wish list of brewing items to acquire, I highly recommend putting this towards the top of the list.
Rick