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Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:10 pm
by Jones4412
So I am getting ready to bottle my 2nd batch of Mr. Beer (That Voodoo that you do which I added .25lb of Carapils to) I have a can of the Bavarian Weissbier on deck. I was hoping some of you could help me out with some good recipes I can use to kick this HME up a notch. Thanks in advance for your input.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:30 pm
by Bluejaye
I was pretty happy with the deluxe version as-is, but I plan on making this recipe with the HME next time:

http://www.mrbeer.com/product-exec/prod ... zen_Recipe

Which is basically the deluxe version with a hop addition. I might also use some WB-06 yeast, as well, but haven't decided, yet.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brew ... wb-06.html

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:16 pm
by BeerRust
Jones4412 wrote:So I am getting ready to bottle my 2nd batch of Mr. Beer (That Voodoo that you do which I added .25lb of Carapils to) I have a can of the Bavarian Weissbier on deck. I was hoping some of you could help me out with some good recipes I can use to kick this HME up a notch. Thanks in advance for your input.
Do some research on hops. Pick one out that you think would go nicely with a wheat beer. I would suggest a 20 min boil or less, with 1 lbs of DME of your choice, and add the HME at flame out. You could also try Nottingham yeast, that seems to go well with wheat also.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:40 pm
by Jones4412
What are your thoughts on this. Boiling 1 to 1.5 Gallons of water. Steeping .25 lbs Carapils for 30 mins. adding 3 lbs either Bavarian Wheat DME or 3 lbs. Golden Light DME Boil for 30- 60 mins?? Adding .25 oz of Spalter Hops for 15 mins and .25 oz of Pearle Hops for 15 mins (for flavor and aroma instead of bittering due to the Hopped Malt Extract), taking off heat adding the Bavarian Weissbier HME. add to LBK, top with Cold water and underpitching White Labs 300 Yeast instead of the pack of yeast that comes under the lid. I am looking to try and get banana flavors in this batch similar to a Franziskaner Weissbier.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:42 pm
by haerbob3
do you have QBrew?? It will help you out with your recipe designs

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:30 am
by jpsherman
I posted it in your other thread, but coriander can be a nice addition. Perhaps some orange peel?

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:44 am
by BeerRust
Jones4412 wrote:What are your thoughts on this. Boiling 1 to 1.5 Gallons of water. Steeping .25 lbs Carapils for 30 mins. adding 3 lbs either Bavarian Wheat DME or 3 lbs. Golden Light DME Boil for 30- 60 mins?? Adding .25 oz of Spalter Hops for 15 mins and .25 oz of Pearle Hops for 15 mins (for flavor and aroma instead of bittering due to the Hopped Malt Extract), taking off heat adding the Bavarian Weissbier HME. add to LBK, top with Cold water and underpitching White Labs 300 Yeast instead of the pack of yeast that comes under the lid. I am looking to try and get banana flavors in this batch similar to a Franziskaner Weissbier.
I have a wheat with, Honey Malt steep, and 1 lbs of Wheat DME, 3 lbs of wheat UME, with Amarillo at 20mins and at 5 mins. Added sweetened orange peel a week before bottling. You can boil the water after the steep, then start adding the DME, and hops.
I would suggest if you haven't used either one of the hops, that you chose 1. This way you can know what that hop brings to the brew. The great thing about doing this smaller batches is it does take too long, so you can do another one exactly the same with the other hop. The I purchased a second LBK just for this purpose. Now that I have done several batches with different single hops, I am know ready to do an IPA, with 2 different hops I liked from other brew.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:22 am
by haerbob3
what do you mean by under pitching the yeast?? The Banana esters come thru at a warmer fermentation temp

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:34 pm
by Jones4412
haerbob3 wrote:what do you mean by under pitching the yeast?? The Banana esters come thru at a warmer fermentation temp
Not 100% sure but I've read that underpitching , or ptching about half to 3/4 of the amount of yeast you normally would helps "stress out" the yeast and help produce more banana flavor (along w/ the warmer fermentation temps)

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:41 pm
by haerbob3
I am just wondering how you would dived the liquid yeast to match the cell count. You need to find out the cell count to pitch for your size batch

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:48 pm
by berryman
I would pitch the whole tube and ferment on the very high side to get what you are looking for.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:19 am
by Jones4412
haerbob3 wrote:I am just wondering how you would dived the liquid yeast to match the cell count. You need to find out the cell count to pitch for your size batch
Honestly, I know the whole vials are usually the right size for 5 gallon batches so I was figuring I'd use about half a vial.... Not very calculated, I know, but figured that'd be about right?

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:04 am
by mashani
It depends on how old your vial is. If it's more then a month or two from manufacture date it's actually really not a high enough pitch rate to make the best beer possible in a 5 gallon batch. It will still make beer, but you can make better beer by pitching fresher yeast or making a starter. But it's a good pitch still in a 2.5 gallon batch still.

I'd personally just pitch the whole thing and ferment warm.

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:12 am
by Jones4412
mashani wrote:It depends on how old your vial is. If it's more then a month or two from manufacture date it's actually really not a high enough pitch rate to make the best beer possible in a 5 gallon batch. It will still make beer, but you can make better beer by pitching fresher yeast or making a starter. But it's a good pitch still in a 2.5 gallon batch still.

I'd personally just pitch the whole thing and ferment warm.
Ok cool, I'm sure it won't be too old. I haven't picked anything up yet from my LBHS, but they carry fresh yeast. But what do you Gus think about the grains or DME to add? How much and which types?

Re: Mr. Beer Bavarian Weissbier Mod Suggestions:

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:48 pm
by BeerRust
You may want to consider a SMaSH. Single Malt Single Hop.

Research some hops that you would like to try. Pick one, 20 mins will give you flavor.