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Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:20 pm
by teutonic terror
I'm curious whether anyone in BORG land has used these hops together and what they thought of the
end product.
I understand that quality of the beer's taste is subjective, so was it a positive experience, OR
is this too much of a good thing!
Here's my take on it and...
Thanks BORG! :borg:


BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Brainstorm
Brewer: JohnEC&DeeCC
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.50 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 8.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 84.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.0 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 8.0 %
8.0 oz White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 3 4.0 %
0.30 oz Nugget [13.50 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 16.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 14.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 8.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 7.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 7.0 min Hop 9 12.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 7.0 min Hop 10 11.8 IBUs
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 11 -
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Da Hop 13 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 15.63 qt of water at 168.2 F 152.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (1.34gal, 3.75gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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Created with BeerSmith 2 - http://www.beersmith.com
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Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 5:26 pm
by Beer-lord
I've not used these together and just tried mosaic fir the first time and find them interesting. And, I only have 2 oz of NS but this recipe looks very nice.
I've not used 04 in an IPA but have used 007 which I believe to be similar and it lets the hops shine.

Love to beer, I mean hear your opinions on this.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:47 pm
by mashani
I've not used that combo, but Mosiac seems to complement the other hops I've thrown it in with, so I think it should be fine.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 8:18 am
by teutonic terror
Thanks guys!
Too windy here to brew so I'll have to put this off until next weekend.
I will be sure to give updates as it comes along!

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 8:37 am
by philm00x
Still want to try Nelson. It sounds like a really unique hop. Good luck on this brew!

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:20 pm
by mashani
philm00x wrote:Still want to try Nelson. It sounds like a really unique hop. Good luck on this brew!
I like Nelson quite a lot although it seems to be a love hate kind of hop for many people.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:11 pm
by Kealia
Love them! Phil, you gotta try and find something that has NS in it!

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:02 am
by mashani
I highly recommend Anchor Humming if you can find it.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:24 pm
by alb
mashani wrote:I highly recommend Anchor Humming if you can find it.
I was just talking about that beer today at the LHBS while I was picking up some NS hops. Unfortunately, Anchor stopped distributing it in the USA a couple years ago. I miss it. Guess I'll have to make my own. :D
From their website: "HUMMING ALE'S AVAILABILITY HAS CHANGED WITH THE RELEASE OF OUR NEW FALL SEASONAL, BIGLEAF MAPLE AUTUMN RED. NOW AVAILABLE IN SELECT INTERNATIONAL MARKETS, HUMMING ALE MAY AGAIN BE DISTRIBUTED IN THE U.S. AS A SPECIAL RELEASE AT A LATER DATE."

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 4:14 pm
by Kealia
Widmer stopped making their NS Pale Ale a year or so ago, too.

But, Lagunitas makes an AWESOME NS IPA that's only available on tap (sorry).
I do love this hop and now can't wait for Sunday when my NS Pale Ale is ready to go.

Thanks a lot ya wankers. :x

Phil, drop me a PM with your address and if this beer turns out like I hope it will I'll send you one so you can taste it. I use Magnum to bitter, then NS for the hopstand and dry hop.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:31 pm
by Kealia
FYI - Firestone Walkers' new Easy Jack has Mosiac and I'm pretty sure NS.
Read review here.

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:37 pm
by BigPapaG
This thread on Beer Advocate lists a few brews that use NS:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/t ... ps.100428/

:cool:

Re: Mosaic and Nelson Sauvin together

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:07 am
by teutonic terror
My introduction to Nelson Sauvin was Mr Beer's Pilothouse Pilsner.
That was the first Mr Beer recipe that I thought didn't taste like every other Mr Beer recipe!
I was enamored! Big fan ever since! :)
Phil, I don't think you'll be disappointed when you do get a sample!

BigPapaG, followed your link and emailed Westbrook Brewing hoping to be able to sample their Rye with Nelson in a couple of weeks
while attending my daughters wedding in Charleston, but alas, it's not available this time of year! :-(
It looks like they have several other tasty beers I might like though!
Thanks!