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Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:53 am
by RickBeer
I've been steeping, then after I remove the grain bags I've been adding my LME to the wort (at that point in the 140 - 145 degree range), then bringing to a boil, then starting my 60 minute process.
My LHBS's directions say to steep, bring to a boil, remove from heat, added fermentables, put back on heat and bring to a boil, then start the 60 minute process.
I see no reason to waste that time - am I missing something?
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:12 am
by russki
No reason to wait - you're doing it just fine! RDWHAHB!
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:24 am
by RickBeer
Thanks Russki, just confirming.
Brewing an Oatmeal Stout right now.
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:24 am
by JimH
Maybe to help avoid the hotbreak? Only thing I can think of, but fermcap and a spray bottle are way more effective.
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:44 am
by BigPapaG
The 'remove from heat' part is really just turn the heat off while stirring in the extract(s).
This is to prevent scorching the wort which can happen easily with LME as it lays on the bottom while trying to get the rest in the pot.
Scorched wort = yuck!
I do turn the heat down to low or off, add the extract and then crank it back up while stirring.
[EDIT: And the part about bringing your steeped liquid to a boil before adding your extract is meant to reduce the amount of time the extract is on the heat while trying to reach a boil. This helps prevent the extract from darkening due to Maillard reactions.]
Since I steep in about a gallon of water, another trick I use that really saves time is to keep a separate pot of several gallons of boiled water handy (boiled while I was steeping) to add to the pot to speed the boil process.
So heat off, extract in, boiling water in... Heat on, good to go, hot break comes fast so watch out...
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:23 am
by RickBeer
I had one scorching incident, that was enough, wort down the drain...
I rarely see any kinds of a hot break, using 2.5 gallons in a 5 gallon pot, extract and steeped grains. I do get a rolling boil.
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:27 am
by BigPapaG
I get a lot more hot break action from DME than I do from LME for some reason... Sometimes, like you say, almost nothing with LME.
I edited my post too as I wanted to address the part about bring it to a boil before adding the extact. The less time the extract is on the heat coming up to a boil, the less it darkens.
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:02 am
by RickBeer
I drink with my eyes closed, so dark is fine
Brewed an Oatmeal Stout today, couldn't get much darker.
7.2 lbs LME
1 lb each of Crystal 120, Chocolate, Roasted Barley, and Flaked Oats.
1 oz Challenger at 60, 1 oz EKG at 5. S-04 yeast.
Tasted yummy!
Re: Steep, boil, LME, boil - or steep, LME, boil?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:15 am
by BigPapaG
RickBeer wrote:I drink with my eyes closed