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Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:16 pm
by MK RAM
If you were to experience a bottle bomb, would you rather it was in a glass bottle or a PET bottle?
If brown bottles let in less light and therefore is better for the brew, why do some brewers use clear bottles? One of my all time favorite brews is Newcastle Brown Ale and these folks have been doin the beer thing for many years yet still use the clear...does this make sense? I know Miller does it too, but......yuck!
I've got several 1 liter clear glass flip top bottles that I wanna use. If I bottle then keep in the dark wouldn't that seem to be fine?
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:21 pm
by TimeTraveler
If you were to experience a bottle bomb, would you rather it was in a glass bottle or a PET bottle?
I don't think it matters. Its a mess either way. However, if you are talking 12 oz glass vs. a litre PET bottle - I'll take the glass since it wastes less beer!
If brown bottles let in less light and therefore is better for the brew, why do some brewers use clear bottles? One of my all time favorite brews is Newcastle Brown Ale and these folks have been doin the beer thing for many years yet still use the clear...does this make sense? I know Miller does it too, but......yuck!
Why do some use clear bottles - stupidity! Most of them have to keep the bottles out of the light so they don't skunk.
I've got several 1 liter clear glass flip top bottles that I wanna use. If I bottle then keep in the dark wouldn't that seem to be fine?
You can keep them in the dark and they should be fine, but they won't learn nottin!
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:47 pm
by MK RAM
Thanks TT.
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:06 pm
by Brewbirds
I've never heard of a bottle bomb in a PET, I think they just deform and the caps warp. Search the forum for a thread on pros and cons of the two. One was recently posted but I don't remember which thread.
The reason you see everyone using brown glass bottles is because when you use hops in a beer recipe the hops have a tendency to "skunk" when exposed to sunlight. (had this happen to me when doing an unrelated experiment and whooo it was nasty)
There are some commercial beers in green glass bottles that might familiarize you with that flavor.
Brown bottles offer the best protection of all bottles.
You may see clear bottles on the market because there is a bittering hop extract available that has been processed in a way that eliminates the skunking which large commercial producers are using. (that I don't know for sure but none of the clear bottle beers seem to have much hop presence anyway)
If you have clear bottles that you want to use I wouldn't say "no don't use them" I'd just say be sunlight aware of them while they are conditioning and don't leave them sitting out before you pour them.
I hope I've helped with your questions since I've been there done that with bottles, bottle bombs and gushers. (though I've saved my clear New Castle for the day I do a hard cider)
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:43 pm
by RickBeer
Everytime I've had Newcastle the bottles have been brown as I recall...
Color of the bottle is irrelevant IF You keep it out of the light. If it's in the light, then it matters. Skunking doesn't occur in minutes. You can bring a clear bottle into the light and pour it a few minutes later without issue.
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:00 pm
by brewin bull
I had a 12 oz glass bottle bomb. I would take a plastic one any day over that. It was a while ago an I am still finding glass.
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:13 pm
by Chuck N
MK RAM wrote:
If brown bottles let in less light and therefore is better for the brew, why do some brewers use clear bottles? One of my all time favorite brews is Newcastle Brown Ale and these folks have been doin the beer thing for many years yet still use the clear...does this make sense? I know Miller does it too, but......yuck!
This here is my favorite "American style" lager beers:
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And if you believe that I've got over a kazillion dollars waiting in an off-shore bank account that I want to transfer to the U.S. I can't put it all in to my personal bank account so if you send me your banking information I will transfer some of it into your bank account and then withdraw it after a length of time and you can keep the interest. Deal?
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:46 pm
by Kealia
Brewbirds wrote:You may see clear bottles on the market because there is a bittering hop extract available that has been processed in a way that eliminates the skunking which large commercial producers are using.
^This^
That's not to say that everybody using clear glass uses extract, but I know brands like Miller Genuine Draft uses it so they don't worry about skunking.
Re: Couple of bottle questions
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:39 pm
by haerbob3
in Corouna case it is deliberate. That unique flavor profile in this case is actually skunked beer