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I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:47 pm
by Beer-lord
Based on 3 recipes that lean heavily on Mosaic, I realized that there's just something about them I don't like. It almost has a wine grape taste to me.
I think it does well as a late addition and/or dry hop but after my beer is just a few weeks old, it changes too drastically for me to really enjoy it. Even the Fresh Squeezed that was very good very early is starting to show this to my taste buds (though its almost gone and my son and his friends really drank the crap out of it).
Everyone has a few hops that are not to their liking and I think Mosaic and Summit are mine.

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:16 pm
by Inkleg
This is how I am with Citra. I just don't like it and can usually pick it out in a beer. Haven't use Mosaic, so no judgement on it yet. Though the Citra in the FS overpowered any Mosaic for me.

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:36 pm
by mashani
For me, the only beer I really liked Mosiac in was in combination with Simcoe, where I used 2x more Simcoe. And in a commercial beer, there was one Great Lakes IPA that uses it that I liked a good bit, but I don't have a clue what proportion it is in that beer, but my bet is that it was used in a complementary manner, not as the main hop.

It added something to it that which was nice. I say something because to me the Mosiac is weird, it doesn't taste the same in combination with other hops or by itself. I don't like it much at all with fruity hops, only piney kinds. IE Amarillo. I wasn't a fan of the Mosiac Amarillo beer I made so much. By itself it bores me, it's was like very watered down Simcoe with weak blueberry notes. I do like Simcoe/Amarillo combo though.

Citra, I like (edit: specifically in small amounts) in wheat beers and some Belgians that have a good spicy yeast vibe going on. But it's not a favorite of mine in an American APA/IPA beer, I'm more into Simcoe and C hops, some Amarillo, and some pacific rim hops which are fruity but don't make me think I'm sucking on a peach skin (I don't know how to describe what bugs me about Citra any better then that?)

EDIT EDIT: If you don't like grape, don't use Nelson Sauvin. Depending on where you add them to the boil you can get intensely white grape flavored beer. (I actually do like that, it's not the same as the Mosiac which to me seems more "weak knee blueberry").

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:37 pm
by The_Professor
I really like this post. I am familiar with a few hops and know nothing about lots of others, there are a lot of hop varieties.

I have my first IPA going now and just this morning I was fooling around with one using different hops and perusing through the different ones.

It's really helpful to read people just giving their opinion and to keep both sides in mind when sampling the beer made from those hops.

A lot of flavor in beers is nuance and suggestion where different people may taste slightly different flavors.

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:30 am
by Kealia
I've learned that I like Mosiac only in combination with other hops, too. I've had two different SMaSH type beers with Mosaic and they smelled FUH-nomimal but the taste had something in it that wasn't great. Citra on the other hand - load them in. I've done (and had) single-hopped Citra beers and love them.

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:34 am
by Beer-lord
I get a wine-grape taste with many Mosaic beers. At first, I thought it was off flavors but it's definitely Mosaic. I get just a hint of it in the Fresh Squeezed but not enough to be a bad thing in that beer.
I do know I didn't like it too much in my Mosaic IPA but I did keg hop that with something else to kick it up a notch.

Re: I don't think I'm a fan of Mosaic hops

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:34 am
by DaYooper
One I really liked was Mosaic Promise by Founders. It is a SMaSH with Golden Promise malt and Mosaic hops. The two really played well together.