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How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:51 pm
by MattKnox
Ok guys Im still new to brewing but I have some ingredients left around the house so thought I would do a partial mash. I'm really not sure where I should get my numbers for OG/FG so I really hope I can get your guys help.

2 lbs 2 row
2.5 Pilsner LME
.5 lb flaked maize
.5 carapils
.25 crystal 20L
.4 cascade 60 min
.4 cascade 5 min

How does that look? This is a Mr. Beer size batch

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:02 pm
by RickBeer
Download QBrew from www.screwybrewer.com and it gives you everything.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:03 pm
by gwcr
Just plugged your ingredients into Qbrew. Looks like the OG would be 1.082 with FG of 1.021. IBUs would be at 17.

This recipe looks very heavy on the malt or light on the hops (take your pick). It would also be about 8.0% abv.

It would be helpful if we knew what your goals were for this brew (style, abv, hoppy, malty, etc). If you can give us some more detail about what you are trying to get out of this one, it would be easier to help.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:43 pm
by Brewbirds
From the ingredients you listed although you say you are new to brewing it appears you are already used to hop boils and base grains and are comfortable with them so I assume you are using a brewing software?

We have plugged left over ingredients into our software once and made quite a good beer but it still required adjustments, you may not use all of one item and may still need to add something else to get a good balanced beer.

So as the others have said what are you shooting for as a concept beer? :cheers:

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:07 pm
by MattKnox
The goal of this is a medium bodied light colored amber ale/lager (if that makes sense). I would use a US05 yeast since I don't have a dedicated lager temp fermenter (I do use a swamp cooler).

I have done a few hop boils yes but they always end up way too hoppy for me. So thats why I was going lighter there. have used cascade mostly but tried cluster with them when trying a yuengling clone. So I was thinking more ale-ish with a slight hop to it. Maybe cluster as well I do have some left over for an aroma.

I have steeped before and just added lme. Had seen a video where instead of booster use a row plus crystal instead of mr beer booster.

I will download qbrew. Thanks guys for your help

Edit: I have done one all grain before, that is where the extra ingredients are from ( should have mentioned earlier my bad). So I don't know much about it at all. I am reading how to brew by john palmer but figured I may give a go.

Then again I have thought about giving a few mr beer recipes a go to see what I may enjoy and get more used to brewing. I am a confusing person lol.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:46 pm
by Bluejaye
MattKnox wrote:Then again I have thought about giving a few mr beer recipes a go to see what I may enjoy and get more used to brewing. I am a confusing person lol.
I'm not confused, I'd use up what I had first, too. But getting the process down, and knowing what you like aren't bad ideas.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:30 am
by Wings_Fan_In_KC
"This recipe looks very heavy on the malt or light on the hops (take your pick)."

Looks like that's what he's shooting for!

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:02 pm
by Bluejaye
This is more a question about Qbrew, but I plugged that in and got OG: 1.081, FG: 1.020, and a bitterness of 29, which is a lot more than GWCR's 17. So, I'm wondering what I plugged in wrong, since I'm only played around with QBrew for minimal amount of time (still working up the never to do an AG). I attached my file, hoping someone can laugh at it and then tell me what I did wrong. Thanks.

BTW, .qbrew files can't be attached.
The extension qbrew is not allowed.
The upload was rejected because the uploaded file was identified as a possible attack vector.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:14 pm
by RickBeer
With QBrew, make sure you have the proper batch size. Mr. Beer is 2.13 gallons unless you do a 2.4 or 2.5 gallon batch.

Make sure you put in the hops FIRST, sometimes it doesn't calc right. I suspect you didn't put in the right ounces of hops - he has 0.4 ounces.

Make sure you adjust the alpha to whatever your package says, and of course put in the right time.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:45 pm
by Bluejaye
RickBeer wrote:With QBrew, make sure you have the proper batch size. Mr. Beer is 2.13 gallons unless you do a 2.4 or 2.5 gallon batch.
Make sure you put in the hops FIRST, sometimes it doesn't calc right. I suspect you didn't put in the right ounces of hops - he has 0.4 ounces.
Make sure you adjust the alpha to whatever your package says, and of course put in the right time.
I had the 2.1gal and .4oz correct in the attached .qbrew file. But apparently the program's database for Cascade is at 7.1% alpha. As soon as I changed it to 4.5 from a Google search, it came down to 18.

So basically, it seems to me the .qbrew database is a bit untrustworthy. Although technically Google/Wikipedia claims the Alpha is 4.5-7.0, which seems kind of a huge range considering how big a difference that makes.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:00 pm
by RickBeer
Every year as I understand it the level varies so no program works without being adjusted.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:25 pm
by gwcr
Yeah, always be prepared to change the AA for hops in any program. They will vary a bit from year to year. Always best to use the number on the packet when you buy them.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:16 pm
by MattKnox
This has been helpful, thanks guys. I am still trying to figure out qbrew myself. I never used it before so I will keep all of this info in mind. None of my LBK are gonna be open for about two weeks so I won't get to try it quite yet. But I may try a couple Mr. Beer recipes first.

Right now I just finished brewing the Annapolis Home Brew Yuengling extract clone. Too bad they don't put what hops or grain or extract they actually use. They keep it a secret lol. I got an OG of 1.044 which is pretty much right on the money. I am excited to try it!

Really again thanks guys.

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:20 pm
by gwcr
We're happy to help! Keep brewing and asking questions when you need to. Hope your Yeungling clone turns out well for you. I like the original but can't get it around here. May have to whip that one up some day.

Cheers!
:cheers:

Re: How does this look? OG/FG?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:10 am
by MattKnox
I am just a hop skip and a jump away from you so I understand not being able to get it. Thanks for the vote of confidence.