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I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 9:35 am
by ScrewyBrewer
Since my LHBS started carrying White Labs yeast in Pure Pitch packets I stopped making starters. But I was buying 2 packets for each 5-gallon batch. At $6.95 a packet, I was spending nearly $14.00 more to save time. Then I started to notice the 'Best By' dates on half my order ranged from 5 months from the date of purchase to just 1 month.

Around a month from the best by date White Labs recommends making a starter which in effect sunk my plans of not having to make a starter. So yesterday I bought a pound of extra light DME and 2 pure pitch packs instead of 4. So here I am having my morning coffee listening to the whir of a stir bar in the background. I really don't mind making starters the biggest pain for me is having to cool the starter wort. I realize now while taking shortcuts I have been missing out on one of brewing's most rewarding processes.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:02 pm
by Beer-lord
I always overbuild and actually 1 pack for me lasts for 4 or more brews saving me lots of money.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 6:03 pm
by berryman
It's funny but I actually enjoy making a starter. Like a mini brew you know you are not going drink, but getting ready for the real deal. Fun to watch it progress on the stir-plate. I don't like re-hydrating dry yeast and would rather pitch another pack if needed when using it. Usually if I do a 1 LT. I put the whole thing in, 2 LT I decant. Usually light DME but sometimes wheat DME, depends on what I am making and what I have around.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 6:12 pm
by berryman
ScrewyBrewer wrote: I really don't mind making starters the biggest pain for me is having to cool the starter wort. .
Yea but that small amount cools down really fast (about the time it takes me to drink a beer or two) :) and being a starter and not a drinker, high 70's doesn't matter. All yeast love the warm.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 8:42 pm
by John Sand
I usually harvest yeast from the fermenter, but I've made two starters recently. No stir plate, just bottle and shake.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 8:49 pm
by HerbMeowing
PRO TIP:
Stop making starters with expensive DME.
Start saving and using wort from your last batch instead.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:22 am
by Beer-lord
Herb, I've often thought of your idea and read about it but as most of my beers are in the upper 1.050 and lower 1.060 range, that's a problem for me using them as starters.
But since I get many starters out of one pack of yeast, I figure I save anyway so I guess it's a wash for me.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:18 am
by HerbMeowing
Simply dilute the 'high' gravity wort with some boiled / cooled water.

The target gravity for a starter is 1.030 to 1.040.
IIRC ... if the source wort is 1.060 add an equal volume of water and you end up with 1.030.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:11 pm
by Beer-lord
But I like making starters with DME. But whatever works to get you where you want to be. 30 minutes of work has always done fine by me but your idea is s good one as well.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:00 pm
by berryman
John Sand wrote:I usually harvest yeast from the fermenter, but I've made two starters recently. No stir plate, just bottle and shake.
I made a lot of starters before I got a stir plate and works good. The stir-plate is just another gadget to have, but they do work good. I mostly use dry yeast but if making something special, I will use liquid and make a starter as per the yeast calculator I use. I would never spend the money for two liquid packs when you can make a starter so easy.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:05 am
by ScrewyBrewer
Making a starter felt like old times again. I split this one into two 5-gallon Kolsch batches a few hours after high krausen. I didn't even bother decanting them first. Once I made room in my freezer cooling the starter down only took a few hours. And at $6 a pound, I still have enough DME left over to make a few more.
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Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:29 pm
by Beer-lord
Go big or go home! :lol: :lol:

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:58 am
by denny
2-3 years ago I stopped using stir plates and went to the "Shaken Not Stirred" method. I've found it to be faster, easier, and at least as effective. It does require a leap of faith when you first try it, becasue it seem so "unscientific". But after you've done it a few times and had success, you see what a load of BS yeast calculators and stir plates are. https://www.experimentalbrew.com/blogs/ ... new-tricks

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:20 pm
by Kealia
I've heard/read about this method but am happy with the results that I get from about a 24-hour spin on my stirplate and pitching at high krausen. Given my schedule, I'm not around enough to shake it every now and then - and if I were, I'd forget!

This is good to know for those that are retired and/or have the time to shake, though.

Re: I Made My First Yeast Starter In Over A Year

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:23 am
by denny
Kealia wrote:I've heard/read about this method but am happy with the results that I get from about a 24-hour spin on my stirplate and pitching at high krausen. Given my schedule, I'm not around enough to shake it every now and then - and if I were, I'd forget!

This is good to know for those that are retired and/or have the time to shake, though.
You only really need to shake at the beginning when you pitch the yeast into the starter