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Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:59 pm
by txagsbas23
Recently brewed a mr beer recipe for a bock beer. I have brewed before and it is a pretty straight forward process. I believe I left the beer in the mr beer barrel a bit long. I also changed the location of the fermenter to a temp controlled chest freezer. The freezer had very little airflow so I wonder if this also played an issue with the process. Especially with the venting of the mr beer barrel.

My real question is there any way to correct or will the case of bottles have to be dumped. I am unsure if time in the bottle will change the outcome.

Thanks!

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:12 pm
by oly
I made a soapy tasting beer once. The flavor never got better or went away. Sorry to be a bummer.

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:30 pm
by Wings_Fan_In_KC
I'm not thinking it's going to condition out. From Palmer:

"If you leave the beer in the primary fermentor for a relatively long period of time after primary fermentation is over ("long" depends on the style and other fermentation factors), soapy flavors can result from the breakdown of fatty acids in the trub. Soap is, by definition, the salt of a fatty acid; so you are literally tasting soap."


Maybe you can mix it with another beer you like (2/3 good beer and 1/3 soapy beer) and see if it's drinkable. It won't hurt you. You just have to get it to a stage where it's not unpleasant to drink.

Try mixing before you throw it out.

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:35 pm
by philm00x
Soapy flavors could be either due to not cleaning your glassware/bottles thoroughly, but it can also be caused by leaving a beer in the fermenter for too long. If beer sits on the trub for too long in the fermenter, fatty acids begin to break down via acid/base reaction, so the trub is actually turning to soap. This is paraphrasing from Palmer's book, "How To Brew".

LOL Wings beat me to it, as soon as I was posting this.

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:38 pm
by RickBeer
How long was it in the LBK?

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:40 pm
by Wings_Fan_In_KC
I'm damn fast at copying and pasting Palmer!

LOL

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:42 pm
by philm00x
I should've just done that instead of paraphrashing!

Re: Mr Beer Bock - Soap Taste

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:08 pm
by Foothiller
Like Wings, I don't like to waste any beer if I can avoid it. If 2/3 good beer to 1/3 soapy beer gets it drinkable, I would do that. I have one beer that didn't carbonate right, but by mixing it with an American Light, it's drinkable.