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Twisted monk

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:18 pm
by clay5769
Hi
I'm looking for another option to get something that tastes like Brewdemon twisted monk . I think it tastes like blue moon I like these kits but the shipping is crazy...
Thanks Clayton

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:36 pm
by mashani
Are you willing to take the first steps towards using unhoped malt extract and boiling your own hops?

If so a kit like this will get you going - this will make 5 gallons, you can simply split it in two and brew it twice.

https://www.morebeer.com/products/blue- ... tract.html

You can get free shipping from them if you order $59 worth of stuff, so if you really like blue moon, buy 2 of these, or find something else that looks good to you.

Takes a bit more time then the cans, but you get about twice as much beer for the same price as the kits.

Northern Brewer has one too, they do free shipping > $40, but as a rule of thumb MoreBeer is less expensive if you can hit that $59.

https://www.northernbrewer.com/products ... recipe-kit

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:30 am
by clay5769
Ty.... Not sure if I'm quite ready for that yet..

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 am
by bpgreen
clay5769 wrote:Ty.... Not sure if I'm quite ready for that yet..
That seemed like such a huge leap to me when I first contemplated it.

But it's really not that bad. It takes more time, but you can still do it on the stove with things you have on hand.

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:44 am
by John Sand
I agree that extract grains and hops isn't much different than HMEs, but proceed at your own pace.
Is there a homebrew store anywhere near you?

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:26 pm
by berryman
As was asked and answered on another thread, your options are kind of limited to about 3 or 4 companies that sell the canned HME type kits. Moving up to a LME, grain steep and hop boil is a next easy step and opens up a whole new world of options. As John Sand said "but proceed at your own pace".

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:02 pm
by The_Professor
Brewferm makes a Witbier HME.

Their website has instructions

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:10 pm
by clay5769
Thanks everyone. It's my next step going to the steep brewing, just want to get more comfortable with the whole process. Going leave training wheels on for a bit more...

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:32 pm
by bpgreen
The_Professor wrote:Brewferm makes a Witbier HME.

Their website has instructions
That looks like it would work pretty well. It's designed for 4 gallons, but it would be easy to split and do two batches.

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:16 pm
by clay5769
Thanks getting ready to order some now 4 gallons is perfect.. :beer:

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:09 pm
by berryman
You could try the first 2 gal batch as is and if you wanted it a little more Blue Moonish could add some orange peel and coriander on the next one.

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 pm
by clay5769
Hi
Well I'm getting ready to do a batch of Coopers draft
Can I add the orange and coriander to that? how and when do I add it?
Thanks

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:23 pm
by mashani
clay5769 wrote:Hi
Well I'm getting ready to do a batch of Coopers draft
Can I add the orange and coriander to that? how and when do I add it?
Thanks
Yes you can. For 5 gallons, you would want to use 1 to 2oz or so of sweet orange peel and about 0.25 to 0.5oz of ground coriander. You would add that to the last 10 minutes of the boil in a beer you made from scratch.

In your case, boil your water for 10 minutes with the orange and coriander in it, and then add the extract to that water. Make sure to use a bit more water then called for to account for the boil off (or top it up if needed).

You can tweak that to your tastes, use more or less, or a mix of sweet/bitter orange peel. It depends on the "orange to lemon" balance you want. Bitter orange peel will be a bit more herbal, where sweet orange peel is more pure "orange". A traditional wit bier would likely use more or all bitter orange peel, but blue moon is NOT a traditional wit bier, blue moon doesn't even use authentic wit bier yeast, it uses regular American ale yeast. You can use even more, or even less of the spices. It's really up to you to find the perfect amount for your tastes. (for 2.5 gallons or 2 gallons just divide the amounts above proportionally).

Note that actual blue moon would have oats in it, or an actual wit bier would have wheat in it, your Coopers draft will not have these things in the extract. So your beer will be much more clear looking and have a bit less of a silky mouth feel then blue moon or a wit bier. Also the Coopers draft extract is going to be more bitter to start with then blue moon or a wit bier.

That doesn't mean it will be bad, it just won't be "the same".

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:20 am
by clay5769
Hi
Got it do the normal water boil but add the coriander and orange peel first then after the 10 minute boil add the HME as normal

And could I used dehydration orange peels?

Clayton

Re: Twisted monk

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:26 am
by clay5769
John Sand wrote: Is there a homebrew store anywhere near you?

Probably not I'm in a tiny town in Florida the closest anything within 10 miles is a John deere dealer :mow: