Simple Saison

[monsteroyd]

Ha, good point, thanks for pointing that out. I'll probably do a PM, but I have a 300 micron SS hop spider thing I can use for the grits during the mash.

Monty

[mashani]

Wouldn't flaked corn be better? Less messy. When I think of grit in a boil, I think polenta. That would gum up the works really good. EDIT: If the grits are all bunched up in a small area and turn into a blob of polenta like substance in a spider or a sack how are the enzymes going to get at the "guts" of it?

[monsteroyd]

Dang it will you guys quit showing how my idea is dumb? Ok I'll wait till I get some flaked corn for the cream ale. Maybe this set will just be the perfection of the blonde ale.

Monty

[monsteroyd]

On another note, I got to try the first of set 2 of the Saisons. This one is pretty much PapaG's Simple Saison recipe with 1 oz of roasted barley steeped to simulate the slight burning of the malt during kilning on the farm. It came out at 5.8% which is closer to my goal, and tasted great. I was able to drink a liter and not fall down

Anyway, I liked this a lot so here's the recipe again:
Brewed: 22 Jan 2014
Bottle: 15 Feb 2014
Drink: 15 Mar 2014

Batch Size: 2.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.047 SG
Measured OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated FG: 1.004 SG
Measured FG: 1.004 SG
Estimated ABV: 5.7 %
Measured ABV: 5.8 %
Boil Time: 15 Minutes
Color: 11.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 20.1 IBUs

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.0 oz Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 1 2.2 %
1.00 oz Styrian Goldings [4.00 %] - First Wort 15 min boil Hop 2 20.1 IBUs
1 lbs Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 3 35.6 %
2.00 Items Fermcap-S (Boil 25.0 mins) Other 4 -
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 5 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 0.0 mins) Other 6 -
1.0 pkg Belle Saison (Lallemand #) Yeast 7 -
1 lbs Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 8 35.6 %
12.0 oz Munich Liquid Extract (12.5 SRM) Extract 9 26.7 %

Monty

[monsteroyd]

Also got to try another batch. This one was the Sorachi Red Rye. Well it didn't turn out red, but a amber-brown, almost like a brown Saison. Tasted great, and was 5.4%, so an enjoyable drinkable beer.

Monty

[BeerRust]

Also got to try another batch. This one was the Sorachi Red Rye. Well it didn't turn out red, but a amber-brown, almost like a brown Saison. Tasted great, and was 5.4%, so an enjoyable drinkable beer.

Monty

What are the taste profiles your are getting from your Saisons?

[monsteroyd]

Wow, you ask hard questions. It tastes Saisony with a major contribution of what you get with Belle Saison dry yeast.

I can't describe it. It is spicy-ish smooth-ish with a slightly bitter finish, but nothing that hangs around. The taste, to me, actually changes as I swallow, it starts out fruity, citrusy, goes to a smooth middle, with a slight peppery bitter finish, then just fades out to smooth, with a hunger for more. I really like it. Sometimes I taste melons, or sometimes lemons.

Overall, the yeast comes first then all the different variations with the taste. I did a stout (basically) with Belle Saison and it is just weird. I don't particularly like it. Right now it is on long term conditioning. I hope my one fiend that likes everything I make will like it, but at 10% ABV, it will take him some time too.

Monty

[monsteroyd]

Well, I got to try the Hibiscus Saison last night. Weird color, but I really like the taste of this beer. A little high in the ABV department at 5.8%, but I liked it, and my wife liked it too. That says a ton, because she is NOT a beer person.

Here is a picture so you can see the color.

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Monty

[Brewbirds]

Monty you've outdone yourself!!!

That is a beaut.

[monsteroyd]

Thanks BB. That's basically BigPapaG's Simple Saison recipe with 3 oz of Red Hibiscus flowers steeped. Cam out a little cloudy from the wheat and hibiscus, but you can taste Hibiscus, and it kind of fills in the middle opf the taste, if that makes sense. I think it goes great with the Saison-y flavor.

Monty

[BeerRust]

Wow that looks great!

[monsteroyd]

Ok this is the second or third pour of SS3C. This is a more brown-ish Saison. Came in at 5.4% and tastes real good to me.

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Recipe on request (or go back and find it. jk I am enjoying this beer)

Monty

[monsteroyd]

Trying the ss3f. A SMaSH light dme and belma. Mmmmmmmm....

I like belma hops.

Monty

[Brewbirds]

OH Moderator!!!

We are being intermittently tortured over here.

[monsteroyd]

ok somewhere back there I made a Citra saison. I got to try this one out over the weekend, and man, Citra is great in a Saison. The aroma, taste, and bitter worked wonderfully. First Wort Hop and just a very short boil, like 5 minutes or something. Wonderful taste and aroma. I like Citra.

Monty