Pellicle Formation
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Re: Pellicle Formation
If you can define crap more specifically it would be useful, but in general I'd expect it to taste like crap at this point, so I'm with russki on racking it and ignoring it to see what happens if you have the space and patience.
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Count me as in agreement as well. Worst case? It still tastes like crap after you let it sit for a year, you dump it, and you write it off to experience. But, I'm willing to wager... it may not taste like crap. Or maybe it will. But you'll never know if you dump now.
Swenocha is a vast bastard of brewing knowledge - Wings_Fan_In_KC
Fermenting:
nada... zip...
Drinking:
nada... zip... maybe an N/A beer here and there...
Fermenting:
nada... zip...
Drinking:
nada... zip... maybe an N/A beer here and there...
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Alright, I took the advice of the Borg of course and today I transferred it to 2 one gallon glass jugs with stopper and airlocks. Going to let it sit till this time next year
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Looking forward to an update. Even though it's a LLLLLLLOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time coming. 
Naked Cat Brewery On Tap
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Just a little update on this thing. I haven't looked at them since I transferred them so I took a peek today. The pellicle is back on both of these things, one of them more so than the other. Any reason one would have a much thicker pellicle than the other? Just curious really. Now it's back to letting them sleep.. For a loooong time. Of course pictures are required 
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#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
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#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
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It could actually be that different bugs are more active in each. The one on the left looks more lacto like to me, the one on the right more brett like.
If they are being made by the same bugs at the moment, my only thought is that the bugs in the one with the bigger pellicle are getting exposed to more oxygen somehow. In your pictures, the one on the right seems to have less water in your airlock.
If they are being made by the same bugs at the moment, my only thought is that the bugs in the one with the bigger pellicle are getting exposed to more oxygen somehow. In your pictures, the one on the right seems to have less water in your airlock.
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Yes I realized there was less water in the one on the right as well, I don't recall it being that low before, but I went ahead and added a little more sanitizer/water to it to make it even with the other
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#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
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#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
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Took a peek today. The one on the left in previous pictures has bubbles forming on the pellicle but didn't take a picture of it. The one on the right however looks creepy and I am wondering if it is infected 
It seems the pellicle has broken into peices and some is turning a pinkish color around the edges
It seems the pellicle has broken into peices and some is turning a pinkish color around the edges #15 There Gose 'Nother Semester - Gone
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
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Yum, that does look infected.
So far nothing has reformed on mine since normal fermentation has passed and it may not. The co2 produced my have driven all the o2 from the head space.
The Pellicle is formed to protect the bugs from oxygen. Taking a sample of beer would introduce so o2, but I'd be robbing my future self of beer. So I'll let it sit for at least 8-9 months and maybe try it then.
My 2nd sour made with ECY-BugCounty20 has been fermenting since Thursday.
So far nothing has reformed on mine since normal fermentation has passed and it may not. The co2 produced my have driven all the o2 from the head space.
The Pellicle is formed to protect the bugs from oxygen. Taking a sample of beer would introduce so o2, but I'd be robbing my future self of beer. So I'll let it sit for at least 8-9 months and maybe try it then.
My 2nd sour made with ECY-BugCounty20 has been fermenting since Thursday.
Naked Cat Brewery On Tap
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Wow I just read the description of the ECY BugCounty20, that sounds like a whole lotta bugs! I wish I knew what is in my beer, IIRC I pitched dregs from two Jolly Pumpkin beers, and two bottles of Haandbakk's Oud Bruin which happens to be the most mouth puckering sour I have ever had.
#15 There Gose 'Nother Semester - Gone
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
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Not gonna lie.. I took another peek today! I am clearly very impatient with these two.. The one on the left in the pictures above has no sign of pellicle anymore, while the one on the right still looks the same. Sooo since the one on the left didn't have any sign of gross looking formations, I figured it would be a good idea to take just a small sample, only a sips worth 
So I took the sample and put it into a small glass. I didn't take a picture but it was crystal clear, with an orange/pink color. IIRC I used one can MB Oktoberfest and one can MB WCPA, then added raspberries later on in fermentation. Created a pretty neat color. As for the smell, the finger nail polish/crap smell is gone for this one 
When I finally mustered up the courage to taste it This is really good! The sourness is mouth puckering, but not overpowering, it is at a very nice level, and there is just a hint of lingering raspberry flavor, very faint. Now I am sitting here trying to justify to myself that I should bottle this one.. What say the 
As Mashani said earlier, he thought the one on the left looked more like lacto, well if that is the case then it could be done, right? (3-4 months?) It has currently been 5 months
So I took the sample and put it into a small glass. I didn't take a picture but it was crystal clear, with an orange/pink color. IIRC I used one can MB Oktoberfest and one can MB WCPA, then added raspberries later on in fermentation. Created a pretty neat color. As for the smell, the finger nail polish/crap smell is gone for this one When I finally mustered up the courage to taste it This is really good! The sourness is mouth puckering, but not overpowering, it is at a very nice level, and there is just a hint of lingering raspberry flavor, very faint. Now I am sitting here trying to justify to myself that I should bottle this one.. What say the As Mashani said earlier, he thought the one on the left looked more like lacto, well if that is the case then it could be done, right? (3-4 months?) It has currently been 5 months#15 There Gose 'Nother Semester - Gone
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating
#16 Two Brothers Brown - Gone
#17 Home Toasted Pale - Gone
#18 Porter Potty - Gone
#19 I do IPA - Gone
#20 Max Capacity Stout - One Left in the cellar
#21 Not So Independent Scotch Ale - Drinking
#22 Berliner Weisse - Gone
#23 Fruit Fallacy IPA - Carbonating