neomexicanus

[bpgreen]

Apparently there are several different hop varieties. Most of what we use now are european varieties or hybrids of european varieties and varieties that were native to the eastern US.

But there's also a variety that's native to the southwest. This new variety is called neomexicanus (it was found in New Mexico)

I just ordered a couple of plants. They were kind of expensive, but they might be worth it.

[mashani]

Did you get a named type, or some wild variety?

I've got some HBC-438 which is a neomexicanus experimental hop of some sort.

[philm00x]

What descriptors would you give these hops (AA%, aromatic properties, etc.)?

[bpgreen]

Did you get a named type, or some wild variety?

I've got some HBC-438 which is a neomexicanus experimental hop of some sort.

I bought named varieties. Amalia and multihead.

[mashani]

What descriptors would you give these hops (AA%, aromatic properties, etc.)?

I don't know about the ones he got, but the HBC-438 is sort of like if you mixed some citra and mosaic and perle hops, but then took the pine and turned it to cedar. It is a bit unusual at first, a mix of tropical fruit, stone fruit/berries, minty herbs, and cedar. And the ones I have are 14%-16% AA I think.

[JimH]

You will be pleased!

Where my hometown is at in New Mexico the neomexicanus grows wild in the forest! The local brew pub made a New Mexico Brown with it. It is a very good hop. As I understand it, it is a European variety then ended up growing wild. Has some of the same characteristics of Euro hops, but like everything, has a special New Mexico flair.

Let me know how you like it!

[Dawg LB Steve]

Just used HBC438 in a Rye IPA along with Amarillo all 20 min. to flameout (Nugget for bittering @60), it was citrusy, juicy, more toward oj than grapefruit. The HBC438 was around 15% AA. The Amarillo was probably 2:1 over the HBC438 in overall amount though, so I think that is where the orange was predominantly coming from. I would like to try it again on it's own to see what it brings.

[bpgreen]

They went into the ground today. They were plants, rather than rhizomes. The roots were probably a good 4 inches and there were live leaves.

I'm hoping they do well. I've never planted in the fall and I've never planted live plants.

[bpgreen]

So an update on this.

Most hops need lots of nitrogen. So when these came up, I hit them with a fairly small (I thought) amount of ammonium sulfate (21-0-0). But that was enough to burn them and kill them.

I'm planning to order one other plant to put in the ground this spring, and I'm coordinating with some other people to try to get a rhizome exchange going with all of these (the plants are fairly expensive, and I haven't found rhizomes for sale--only plants).

Does anybody else here live in an area conducive to neomexicanus hops and want to plant a variety (or two) and participate in building up a rhizome exchange?

[John Sand]

Sorry about your hops.
I grow Cascades here, but with a mostly shaded yard, I don't get a good yield.

[Beer-lord]

Hops don't grow well at all in my area. I've not tried but have been told by some who have that its not worth it and what I would get would not be of good quality.

[mashani]

Everything I've tried to grow has failed. I haz a black thumb.

[bpgreen]

I'm giving this another try. I've ordered a neo1 and a willow creek. My brother in Texas has ordered a neo1 and an amalia. A friend in California has ordered a willow creek and a multihead.

So we've got all 4 neo varieties covered, with some overlap.