One Evil Pilsner modification

[docpd]

Currently brewing a nice modification of One Evil Pilsner:

2 cans One Evil
1 lb light DME
.25 oz Saaz 20 minute boil
Saflager w-34/70 yeast
Will ferment at lager temp in garage

I did this last winter and loved it
Better mouthfeel and flavor than the Pilsner by itself but still very simple recipe

[mashani]

Sounds good, the old Pilothouse always made good beer for me.

[Wings_Fan_In_KC]

Pilothouse is one of our favorites! Was stoked to see BrewDemon resurrected it as OEP.

Nelson Sauvin........Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Tabasco]

+1 ... and to think I didn't like it the first time I brewed it. By end of drinking first batch, could not wait to brew more. Will order some from Brew Demon soon ...

I use Nelson Sauvez in my pale ales a lot. I has such a damned nice flavor.

[wollffy]

Ready to brew this tonight. But should I go to the lhbs and mod it ? Meaning ,
Pick up some different yeast and hops.
Also these are hme's so I should not boil it?
How do I go about a hop boil using this recipe?
Excuse my noobness

[Wings_Fan_In_KC]

Last time I modded this, I steeped 1/4 lb of CaraPils and used 1.75 lbs of Pilsen DME coupled with 1 can of PHP.

I added Sterling hops at 28 and 17, did a mini-hopstand (put hop sacks back in while cooling wort) and then dry hopped for 2 days.

I liked the result.

[wollffy]

Currently brewing a nice modification of One Evil Pilsner:

2 cans One Evil
1 lb light DME
.25 oz Saaz 20 minute boil
Saflager w-34/70 yeast
Will ferment at lager temp in garage

I did this last winter and loved it
Better mouthfeel and flavor than the Pilsner by itself but still very simple recipe

I just did this one for my first batch in my
My bdc. I did .5oz saaz for 25 minutes and .5 oz. at 10 min. 1.063 OG

[wollffy]

I just checked this beer. It is now at 1.022.
Quite cloudy orange and I can see green swirl from the saaz
for sure. No sweetness. My son and wife comment that it should taste good when it bubbles. I drank it before taking a pic.
So I'll check again in a few days or another week. I'm not being impatient but I have been
paying attention to others about some fermenting times being less than three weeks in primary.

[T8rSalad]

Pilothouse is one of our favorites! Was stoked to see BrewDemon resurrected it as OEP.

Nelson Sauvin........Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Thanks for this info months ago...Kudos to Wings, DocPD, Mashani and Wollffy for leading me to this the promised land in my book.

[Ibasterd]

I made a batch not too long ago with some slight modifications. 10oz CaraPils (steeped), .5oz Sazz hopps @ 10 min. 2 cans BD one evil pilsner HME. To be honest, I am not thrilled how it came out. Too dark for a pilsner, and not as crisp and clean as I would like. Maybe it will improve with age. Don't know if it was something wrong with my brewing technique or just the recipe. I hope that yours turns out better than mine.

[mashani]

You would need to ditch the Brew Demon yeast (which is S-33), and instead use a real lager yeast, or if you can't then a Kolsch yeast (white labs Kolsch is fine in the mid 60s), or German Ale or Nottingham fermented at 57-59 degrees to get it to be more lager clean. S-33 is not a crisp clean yeast at any temperature, it's very solidly in the "Ale Like" spectrum.

[dbrowning]

Just tasted the OEP I brewed in October.
Straight up
No modification at all
And it is horrible
It is my 64th batch
The first bad beer Ive made
Gonna let it sit a few weeks and see if gets any better
This is not drinkable right now

[mashani]

What is "horrible" about it, can you describe the taste?

My guess is that something bad happened then because that kit doesn't make horrible beer in my experience... ??

IE infection - which is easier if you don't bring it to a boil, IE a piece of equipment like a spoon used in the process that has bugs that the sanitizer can't get to that touches the beer with a boil may not cause harm, but in a no boil kit can be bad news.

When I've been using the canned extracts as a base for bigger batches, I've been not following the directions and being evil - bringing them back up to pasteurization temps and holding them there (and doing a hopstand sometimes to take advantage of the 20 minutes I'm waiting) or even bringing them back up to a split second boil and then doing a hopstand sometimes. I started to do this because I've got my wild brett issues here, I have found that I simply can not trust any beer that hasn't been held at a hot enough temp long enough to kill any airborne bugs. The amount of boiling water you dump the extract into and stir isn't keeping it at a high enough temp long enough, at least not for my kinds of wild brett.

[dbrowning]

What is "horrible" about it, can you describe the taste?

My guess is that something bad happened then because that kit doesn't make horrible beer in my experience... ??

IE infection - which is easier if you don't bring it to a boil, IE a piece of equipment like a spoon used in the process that has bugs that the sanitizer can't get to that touches the beer with a boil may not cause harm, but in a no boil kit can be bad news.

When I've been using the canned extracts as a base for bigger batches, I've been not following the directions and being evil - bringing them back up to pasteurization temps and holding them there (and doing a hopstand sometimes to take advantage of the 20 minutes I'm waiting) or even bringing them back up to a split second boil and then doing a hopstand sometimes. I started to do this because I've got my wild brett issues here, I have found that I simply can not trust any beer that hasn't been held at a hot enough temp long enough to kill any airborne bugs. The amount of boiling water you dump the extract into and stir isn't keeping it at a high enough temp long enough, at least not for my kinds of wild brett.

I suspect he "no boil" extract is the reason for it
Something in the air or equipment like you said
It is a little bit of a sour/brett like taste. But deffinately not good
sorta Bier de Garde like. NOT IN A GOOD WAY at all