Taking another step, equipment-wise
Moderators: BlackDuck, Beer-lord, LouieMacGoo, philm00x, gwcr
- FedoraDave
- FedoraDave
- Posts: 4208
- Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
- Location: North and west of the city
- Contact:
Taking another step, equipment-wise
I picked up one of these at my LHBS today:
I've been having them mill the grains for my 5G batches, because I just got tired of cranking the handle on my Victoria mill. The smaller batches and specialty grains for extract batches I still milled, because I do like the idea of having the freshest-milled grains as possible.
But I had a bit of money left over from last bowling season's awards, and a few weeks ago I won the 50/50 raffle, and that pretty much paid for my whole order today. Plus, my loyalty discount card was filled, so I got a discount on the total. In fact, the discount pretty much paid for the grains for two 2.5G batches.
I'll probably buy a small electric motor or a cheap electric drill to hook up to it, to make it even faster.
I've been having them mill the grains for my 5G batches, because I just got tired of cranking the handle on my Victoria mill. The smaller batches and specialty grains for extract batches I still milled, because I do like the idea of having the freshest-milled grains as possible.
But I had a bit of money left over from last bowling season's awards, and a few weeks ago I won the 50/50 raffle, and that pretty much paid for my whole order today. Plus, my loyalty discount card was filled, so I got a discount on the total. In fact, the discount pretty much paid for the grains for two 2.5G batches.
I'll probably buy a small electric motor or a cheap electric drill to hook up to it, to make it even faster.
Obey The Hat!
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Cool! Shiny!
Making beer and stew for the Zombie Apocalypse.
Never mind, there it is.
Never mind, there it is.
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
I highly recommend the drill. Congratulations!
Proprietress, The Napping Hound Tavern
serving marvelous food and magnificent beers from
Fool's Gold Brewing Co.
serving marvelous food and magnificent beers from
Fool's Gold Brewing Co.
- FedoraDave
- FedoraDave
- Posts: 4208
- Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
- Location: North and west of the city
- Contact:
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
My brother is a carpenter, and he knows his tools. He recommended a Ryobi, as they're cheap, and they'll get the job done. I'll have to do a little shopping in the next week or so.
Obey The Hat!
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
SWEET Dave!!!!! You're gonna love it. I crank mine with a 1/2 Black & Decker corded drill, but I just happened to have an old one.
Naked Cat Brewery On Tap
- HerbMeowing
- Fully Fermented
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:05 pm
- Location: ~37°N : ~77°W
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Recently purchased a Cereal Killer from AIH after Barley Crusher's model 'POS' puked then croaked.
---
CK's rollers adjust easily. More better than a BC.
Set gap initially to 0.035
Fresh knurls = fine crush
Actually ... a tad too fine. Or maybe the flaked oats are to blame.
Semi-stuck sparge last weekend.
Hulls to the rescue!
But I digress.
The mill's base is second-quality. Not b/c it's thin ... tho.
The underside is gouged along the length of the base and it crosses the chute.
On a shelf in a store; product sits long time.
Expect AIH will break radio silence and make it right.
---
CK's rollers adjust easily. More better than a BC.
Set gap initially to 0.035
Fresh knurls = fine crush
Actually ... a tad too fine. Or maybe the flaked oats are to blame.
Semi-stuck sparge last weekend.
Hulls to the rescue!
But I digress.
The mill's base is second-quality. Not b/c it's thin ... tho.
The underside is gouged along the length of the base and it crosses the chute.
On a shelf in a store; product sits long time.
Expect AIH will break radio silence and make it right.
Homebrew will get you through times of no money
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
- FedoraDave
- FedoraDave
- Posts: 4208
- Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
- Location: North and west of the city
- Contact:
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
I adjusted mine when I got it home. Did the gapping by the "credit card" test, as per my LHBS guy. Then ran some old grains through that I had lying around. The eyeball of the grist was satisfactory. Used it this morning on an AG 2.5G batch, and had higher OG than BrewToad calculated. So far, so good. It was a bit of a chore hand-milling 6# or so of grains, though, so a drill is a definite must.HerbMeowing wrote:Recently purchased a Cereal Killer from AIH after Barley Crusher's model 'POS' puked then croaked.
---
CK's rollers adjust easily. More better than a BC.
Set gap initially to 0.035
Fresh knurls = fine crush
Actually ... a tad too fine. Or maybe the flaked oats are to blame.
Semi-stuck sparge last weekend.
Hulls to the rescue!
But I digress.
The mill's base is second-quality. Not b/c it's thin ... tho.
The underside is gouged along the length of the base and it crosses the chute.
On a shelf in a store; product sits long time.
Expect AIH will break radio silence and make it right.
Obey The Hat!
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
- FedoraDave
- FedoraDave
- Posts: 4208
- Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:52 pm
- Location: North and west of the city
- Contact:
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Is it wrong that I've named this mill Teddy John?
Obey The Hat!
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
http://www.homebrew-with-the-hat.com
Some regard me as a Sensei of Brewing
Fedora Brauhaus
- HerbMeowing
- Fully Fermented
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:05 pm
- Location: ~37°N : ~77°W
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Credit cards are 0.039". Used that setting for years with the BC.FedoraDave wrote:... adjusted mine when I got it home. Did the gapping by the "credit card" test, as per my LHBS guy.
Efficiencies improved significantly (pre-boil [mid-80s up from low-80s] and brew-house [low 70s up from mid-60s]) after tightening the gap to 0.035".
Ain't that the truth.FedoraDave wrote: ... bit of a chore hand-milling 6# or so of grains, though, so a drill is a definite must.
Got me a variable speed Bosch re-chargeable couple years ago.
Grinding by hand is for the birds.
Homebrew will get you through times of no money
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Just be wary of the speed, Most drills have way too high RPM for milling grain, SO you you would have to sit and hold it at half throttle or so. You want to be somewhere under 250 RPM(Most drills are up in the 2,000 RPM range).. Also need enough power to crush the grains at the lower speeds. So not just any drill will work well.
Something like This would work pretty good.
Something like This would work pretty good.
Third Eye Brewing
Since I am too lazy to update this every brew...I will update with list of awards
2013 Upper Mississippi Mashout
Gold medal 10A American Pale Ale
Bronze medal 10B American Amber Ale
2012 Upper Mississippi Mash out
Silver medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 National Homebrew Competition First round
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 Minnesota State Fair Homebrew Competition
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager
Gold Medal 10A American Pale Ale
-3rd place Overall!
Since I am too lazy to update this every brew...I will update with list of awards
2013 Upper Mississippi Mashout
Gold medal 10A American Pale Ale
Bronze medal 10B American Amber Ale
2012 Upper Mississippi Mash out
Silver medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 National Homebrew Competition First round
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 Minnesota State Fair Homebrew Competition
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager
Gold Medal 10A American Pale Ale
-3rd place Overall!
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
You are going to wonder how you ever got by without it
- ScrewyBrewer
- Uber Brewer
- Posts: 1544
- Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:11 pm
- Location: Monmouth County, New Jersey
- Contact:
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
I've always had my grain milled at the LHBS but I was wondering, what is the best way to buy and store grain? The majority of my recipes call for 23 pounds of grain so a 50 pound bag will last me about 4-6 weeks.
ezRecipe 'The easy way to awesome beer!'
'Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour, teach him to brew beer and he'll waste a lifetime'
'Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour, teach him to brew beer and he'll waste a lifetime'
- HerbMeowing
- Fully Fermented
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:05 pm
- Location: ~37°N : ~77°W
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
Here's mine.Stinkfist wrote:Something like This would work pretty good.
Bosch PS31. $80.
Two-speed variable (0-350; 0-1300 no-load rpm).
Three-quarter throttle on the 'Speed 1' grinds good grist.
Homebrew will get you through times of no money
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
Better than money will get you through times of no homebrew
- apologies to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
I store mine in vittle vaults, I have varying sizes big ones for base grains and smaller ones for the others they work great, and I have had no problems storing for up to a year.ScrewyBrewer wrote:I've always had my grain milled at the LHBS but I was wondering, what is the best way to buy and store grain? The majority of my recipes call for 23 pounds of grain so a 50 pound bag will last me about 4-6 weeks.
Third Eye Brewing
Since I am too lazy to update this every brew...I will update with list of awards
2013 Upper Mississippi Mashout
Gold medal 10A American Pale Ale
Bronze medal 10B American Amber Ale
2012 Upper Mississippi Mash out
Silver medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 National Homebrew Competition First round
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 Minnesota State Fair Homebrew Competition
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager
Gold Medal 10A American Pale Ale
-3rd place Overall!
Since I am too lazy to update this every brew...I will update with list of awards
2013 Upper Mississippi Mashout
Gold medal 10A American Pale Ale
Bronze medal 10B American Amber Ale
2012 Upper Mississippi Mash out
Silver medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 National Homebrew Competition First round
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager Oktoberfest
2012 Minnesota State Fair Homebrew Competition
Gold Medal 3B European Amber Lager
Gold Medal 10A American Pale Ale
-3rd place Overall!
- Dawg LB Steve
- Brew Guru
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:39 pm
- Location: Greater Cleveland East
Re: Taking another step, equipment-wise
I bought the CK mill in December have used it since I got it, maybe the last 7-8 brews. Set the gap at .039 have been kind of struggling with hitting my targeted gravity (not bad but enough .005 to .009 gravity points), may have to tighten the gap some and see if this helps. I like this piece of equipment, I run it with a 12 volt Nextec 3/8" Craftsman cordless drill/driver. Supposed to run these mills at no more than 300 rpm I heard. If you went electric motor, you would have to use a big pulley on the mill and small on the motor to reduce speed, the problem with that setup is that your are putting side stress on the driven shaft from belt tension and could cause the bushing to fail. I think the Monster Mills are more heavy duty and designed for use with a motor.
MONTUCKY BREWING
Actively brewing since December 2013