OKAY you guys are all going to get mad at me but really isn't this going to far.
ON every other forum I've been to in searches, including one that I thought was for the "PROS", in every search topic where I got a hit the thread had devolved into a sniping insulting spiral that rarely addressed an OP's original question in the end.
Do we want to be that kind of forum?? I say NO NO NO and beg you to peruse some of the posts on here where we have been:
Inviting new brewers here with offers of experience and encouragement
Supporting our fellows in time of distress and illness
Sharing brew day successes and failures where other sites might want to pontificate or bully
Sharing jokes, humor, hobbies etc. that bring us all closer together than we really are
AND IT WORKS
Many of us understand that the whole MB debacle might have left some hard feelings lurking but to keep having these multi-day venting threads recurring is un-productive, embarrassing and just plain depressing.
You will be mad at me for this post but I feel sorry for Leigh and the moderators for having to try to deal with this never ending rant. It is just not representative of what our normal community personality is about.
If I understand correctly a few of our members have been personally insulted/attacked on the other site but I have to ask you guys: by whom???
I mean you are calling people trolls and stuff so why not just recognize that they don't deserve your attention and move on?
I'm sorry but I feel like with the
that so many people have worked so hard to establish this special and unique and comfortable and happy place are being insulted by letting unimportant slights to egos erode everything that they have worked so hard to achieve.
To the newer members of our community who may be confused by this "banter" I ask your patience and ensure you that the advise you receive here is legitimate and sincere.
Ultimately we do want to help others make beer they will enjoy and have fun doing it.